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Old March 25th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #141
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Gotcha. Looked back and this the thread and this is the one I haunted when I was looking for a bike for my oldest daughter. Ended up with a used girls Trek 220 from craigslist that my brother in law tuned up. She did a kid's triathlon last August and the bike was great for it. She's still learning when to shift, but I'm sure she'll be a pro by the end of the summer.

I'm still rocking my 1992 Trek 820.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:12 PM   #142
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The Marlin posted earlier and the 4300 http://americancycleandfitness.com/p...c-130679-1.htm are currently basically the same price.

The Marlin will be on sale in 2 weeks, don't know how much though. The 4300 is as low as it will go, I don't know if a 29er is more beneficial to me or just stick to the 26. Both are the same frame size basically (M is 15.5 and 4300 is 16). The 4300 has hydro brakes which to me seems to be a benefit.

I could use the difference from the sale price of the marlin to put toward some upgrades though. American Cycle says I could buy the marlin now and come back during the sale and get 110% of the difference on a gift card for said upgrades.

Decisions decisions

Knowing me, I will be more off road than on and will attempt stupid obstacles and trails too My fiance will keep me in check some of the time for rides though Stoney/Kensington etc.

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The Marlin posted earlier and the 4300 http://americancycleandfitness.com/p...c-130679-1.htm are currently basically the same price.

The Marlin will be on sale in 2 weeks, don't know how much though. The 4300 is as low as it will go, I don't know if a 29er is more beneficial to me or just stick to the 26. Both are the same frame size basically (M is 15.5 and 4300 is 16). The 4300 has hydro brakes which to me seems to be a benefit.

I could use the difference from the sale price of the marlin to put toward some upgrades though. American Cycle says I could buy the marlin now and come back during the sale and get 110% of the difference on a gift card for said upgrades.

Decisions decisions

Knowing me, I will be more off road than on and will attempt stupid obstacles and trails too My fiance will keep me in check some of the time for rides though Stoney/Kensington etc.
hydraulic > mechanical brakes

IMO 26" > 29" tires.

But, I like to ride my bikes, not just pedal them.

A 29" bike will feel like it rolls faster and holds momentum better. a 26" bike will feel like you are working harder to pedal but will be more fun to corner, jump, and ride.

It's personal preference.
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I may have to go back to the dealer and ride the 4300. I'm leaning more toward that if it fits for the fact that it will definitely be/feel more maneuverable. There were a few other things that were better at least that I noticed. The pedals for one, on the Marlin they were plastic (which was a big complaint while reading reviews), Alpha gold series frame,etc. I have also read a few places that 26 wheels are stronger too. Like I said earlier, I was instantly drawn to the 4300 when I walked in too.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:48 PM   #145
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hydraulic > mechanical brakes

IMO 26" > 29" tires.

But, I like to ride my bikes, not just pedal them.

A 29" bike will feel like it rolls faster and holds momentum better. a 26" bike will feel like you are working harder to pedal but will be more fun to corner, jump, and ride.

It's personal preference.
Right on as far as 26 v 29. I do some riding with a group who all have cross bikes so having a 29er is essential to keep up... we are pedaling not riding like k-stand does.

when I raced moto we called it "flickability" how easy was it to toss around and "will" it to go where you wanted it. The 26 will be more "flickable" than a 29er, all depends on how you intend to use it. I still may get a cross bike one of these days, but for now gravel road riding will done on my 29er.
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I have a 26er and a 29er. I like them both in each ways.
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Buy the bike you want with the parts you want, it is much cheaper to buy a bike with better components than it is to upgrade later. I love my Specialized bikes. But that is the biggest piece of advise I could give anyone. Buy up a level, you won't regret that.
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I have a 26er and a 29er. I like them both in each ways.
I would love to have your bike listed in the for sale section but that is too rich for my blood at this point. Realistically I shouldn't be buying a bike right this minute (have a wedding to pay for in Nov) but my fiance says its an investment that will get used, so go ahead. She loves riding her bike (she currently has roughly 3000 miles on her 2006 Trek)

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Buy the bike you want with the parts you want, it is much cheaper to buy a bike with better components than it is to upgrade later. I love my Specialized bikes. But that is the biggest piece of advise I could give anyone. Buy up a level, you won't regret that.
This why I am leaning toward the 4300. I would love to have the hydro brakes and the frame is better too. I should only need to upgrade the comfort things, seat grips etc.
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This why I am leaning toward the 4300. I would love to have the hydro brakes and the frame is better too. I should only need to upgrade the comfort things, seat grips etc.
The frame is something you are NEVER going to notice. NEVER.

Pedals are cheap, like my most expensive pair in the garage is maybe $120, choosing a bike based on pedals is like choosing a car based on floor mats.

Component levels are important, and you'll get a better deal buying a nicer/better bike with better components now, but....

You can nice, high quality lock on grips for $20, a stem for $30-40, new handlebars for $35-100, derailuers as cheap as $50, shifters as cheap as $30, etc.

The expensive stuff is the crankset, wheelset, and brakes, and other than one of those bikes having hydraulic brakes neither bike has a major major advantage over the other in those other expensive areas.
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Right on as far as 26 v 29. I do some riding with a group who all have cross bikes so having a 29er is essential to keep up... we are pedaling not riding like k-stand does.

when I raced moto we called it "flickability" how easy was it to toss around and "will" it to go where you wanted it. The 26 will be more "flickable" than a 29er, all depends on how you intend to use it. I still may get a cross bike one of these days, but for now gravel road riding will done on my 29er.
Yup, I've ridden a bunch of 29'ers and I just can't seem to like them, no matter how bad I want to jump on that fad.

My 26" bike is very very very playful, flickable, manuverable, however you want to phrase it, it's flat out 100 times more fun to ride than any 29'er i've sat on.
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I really enjoy the simplicity of my 29r. I feel it is much more agile than my old 4300 and my old Marin 26. The difference could be in the lack of suspension or gears?! Either way though, I enjoy my Raleigh more and feel more comfortable on it...
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Yup, I've ridden a bunch of 29'ers and I just can't seem to like them, no matter how bad I want to jump on that fad.

My 26" bike is very very very playful, flickable, manuverable, however you want to phrase it, it's flat out 100 times more fun to ride than any 29'er i've sat on.
I guess it depends on the type of bike you ride and what not. I find my 29er just as fun if not more fun then the 26er.
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I would love to have your bike listed in the for sale section but that is too rich for my blood at this point. Realistically I shouldn't be buying a bike right this minute (have a wedding to pay for in Nov) but my fiance says its an investment that will get used, so go ahead. She loves riding her bike (she currently has roughly 3000 miles on her 2006 Trek)
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I guess it depends on the type of bike you ride and what not. I find my 29er just as fun if not more fun then the 26er.
It is personal preference. No doubt. But a 29'er will never feel as playful and as flickable as a 26. Never. The chainstays are too long, the bb is too high, and your handlebars would be 500 ft in the air just to get a decently slack head angle.
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It is personal preference. No doubt. But a 29'er will never feel as playful and as flickable as a 26. Never. The chainstays are too long, the bb is too high, and your handlebars would be 500 ft in the air just to get a decently slack head angle.
I will find out soon....just picked up a specialized stumpjumper elite 29er.
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Anyone been on the trails yet? I went to Island lakes today and the trails were in pretty good shape. Was in holdridge last week and it was good also.
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Anyone been on the trails yet? I went to Island lakes today and the trails were in pretty good shape. Was in holdridge last week and it was good also.
which holdridge trail? I heard that only the first 7 miles of the east loop were open.....

We've ridden milford a few times, highland is dry and good to go.
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which holdridge trail? I heard that only the first 7 miles of the east loop were open.....

We've ridden milford a few times, highland is dry and good to go.
east.

I rode blue trail today at IL. What is Milford like?
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Is the whole east dry? I wanted to take the kids out ti the north loop but its usually last to dry... :-(

Milford is similar to maybury or treefarm except it doesn't have all the log piles and stuff the tree farm has.
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