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Old March 18th, 2013, 08:22 PM   #141
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Would still be a waste of $.
Expensive yes but if a study was done how long until it paid for it self. And not a lobbyist study. I'm not talking free electric for neighbors. Just independent power sources. What I'm saying is that the kick backs for wind farms should have went to the people not investors and corps.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 09:02 PM   #142
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Pretty much all of the above. There is a reason why when you drive by windmill farms that 1/2 of them arent spinning. They cant aford to fix them because it isnt worth it. Again, government funded wastes of tax payers $.
Oh yeah, now there is an educated statement. Just gotta shake your head and wonder what well they drink from.

FYI, wind generated electricity is growing not because it is government funded but because it works and is profitable................. It provides clean energy and jobs, knock it if you want but your slant is way slanted.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 10:10 AM   #143
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I'm not against wind power. Just how they went about doing it in my area.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #144
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Oh yeah, now there is an educated statement. Just gotta shake your head and wonder what well they drink from.

FYI, wind generated electricity is growing not because it is government funded but because it works and is profitable................. It provides clean energy and jobs, knock it if you want but your slant is way slanted.
Ha! Sheep alert!

Answer one simple question. If it is sooo profitable then why do they not fix the broken ones? Taxis are profitable, they fix them as soon as they break so they can keep making PROFITS.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 11:31 AM   #145
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Not sure if I'm reading this right. Electric is still higher here than propane. So people save money with propane appliances.
Propane is cheaper than electricity? Holy shit where do you get your propane from I need to get on that shit! Must be good for smoking too, because you are fucking HIGH!
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Old March 20th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #146
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http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/b...wer/index.html

Only 12 billion is subsities over the next 10 years. Lots of info.

If you want cheap, enviromentally friendly enerygy then nuclear is they way. Imagine having a small nuclear plant for each neighborhood or town.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/06...ke-profit.html

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Propane is cheaper than electricity? Holy shit where do you get your propane from I need to get on that shit! Must be good for smoking too, because you are fucking HIGH!
If electricity is so much cheaper than propane why would anyone in the world heat with propane when they already have electricity?

You know those big tanks people put in their yards and fill with propane? Seems they wouldn't be very necessary to have if it was cheaper to use electricity no?
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Oh yeah, now there is an educated statement. Just gotta shake your head and wonder what well they drink from.

FYI, wind generated electricity is growing not because it is government funded but because it works and is profitable................. It provides clean energy and jobs, knock it if you want but your slant is way slanted.
Ummmmmm yeah......ok.
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If electricity is so much cheaper than propane why would anyone in the world heat with propane when they already have electricity?

You know those big tanks people put in their yards and fill with propane? Seems they wouldn't be very necessary to have if it was cheaper to use electricity no?
What the fukc is wrong with you? If you can't figure out why then you really are a moron
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Hahahahaha look at this "pro" wind farm video. Half the damn things arent even spinning. The narrator guy acts like he is talking to 6 year olds hahahaha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfOZ...e_gdata_playerhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/b...wer/index.html
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I read it on the internet
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I am confused...
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Finally got around to getting my outdoor wood stove installed. Went with a Central Boiler 5036.

It is heating the house great, but my hot water not very well.

I have added a sidearm onto my existing gas water heater. It is plumbed from the bottom drain up into the relief valve port on the side. It just doesn't seem to be circulating the water through enough to keep it hot. I am thinking of re-plumbing it and moving the top connection from the relief valve to the hot side on top of the tank. I have read that they can be connected to either spot.

Anybody have any other ideas?
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Old November 4th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #156
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Make sure the drain is not plugged with settiment.
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Old November 4th, 2013, 02:57 PM   #157
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I hooked up my side arm to a new water heater. The relief valve is on top, center. I installed a Tee fitting at that port and plumbed the side arm into that. I haven't had any problems circulating water.

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Old November 4th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #158
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Finally got around to getting my outdoor wood stove installed. Went with a Central Boiler 5036.

It is heating the house great, but my hot water not very well.

I have added a sidearm onto my existing gas water heater. It is plumbed from the bottom drain up into the relief valve port on the side. It just doesn't seem to be circulating the water through enough to keep it hot. I am thinking of re-plumbing it and moving the top connection from the relief valve to the hot side on top of the tank. I have read that they can be connected to either spot.

Anybody have any other ideas?
I suspect you have a different issue. I have seen 10-12 hooked this way and work fine. I personally have hooked 3 up exactly that way. I would bet you have a blockage or something. I am not real familiar with centrals is there a coil in the tank on the boiler to heat the water?
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I don't have the side arm set up. I have a 3x8 50,000 BTU plate exchanger. I installed it on the cold water supply 6" before my water heater. So far it seems to be giving me an almost endless supply of hot water.

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I have this sidearm http://www.ebay.com/itm/38-Double-Wa...item257fd34cd9

All of the central boiler diagrams show a third port on top of the water heater. Mine didn't have that so I went into the relief valve port on the side. I flushed the water heater good when I had everything apart. I also have a drain between the sidearm and where it goes back into the tank so I can purge any air that may be in there.

The central boiler doesn't have a coil in it. I am pumping the boiler water into the house through my sidearm then to a coil in the furnace and back out to the stove. The sidearm is hot enough to where you will get burned if you leave your hand on it. It just isn't transferring the heat to the domestic water.
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