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Old March 16th, 2013, 08:32 AM   #121
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I have only had one problem with my draft door in the 6-7 years that I have had mine. Before I started burning mine all year, one year when I started it up the draft door stuck closed and blew the fuse, replaced it and no problems since.

I run mine at 180 also and it does not over heat with out power. Two years ago I replaced my water heater and had power off to the boiler for 2 days and the temp never got above 205, it just smoldered in the fire box.

I run a whole house generator when the power goes out so I still have lights and heat.

How tall is his stack, I am running 2 lengths of pipe, probably 12 feet with no problems.

I would see if they would replace the entire door instead of just parts. Maybe it is the temp sensor or controller, next time it sticks open have him shut off the power and see if the door closes, if it does it is not sticking but being held open electrically.

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Old March 16th, 2013, 08:37 AM   #122
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When I looked at one of CB's boilers I noticed some plates on the inside of the door. The dealer said they had some problems with door and this was the fix.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 08:50 AM   #123
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I love old windmills. Would like to have one but I live in trees. Solar, wind, not great options. Now if instead of giving kick backs to power company's for windmill farms they gave neighborhoods that money for local windmills ...
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It would still be a waste of $ . Windmills dont work, just like recycling most materials is a mistake. Dont get me started.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 08:52 AM   #124
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Please elaborate on recycling.
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Speaking of recycling, is there a way to burn used motor oil in one of these?
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Old March 16th, 2013, 09:14 AM   #126
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Please elaborate on recycling.
Basically, most recycling is government suplimented which means that it can not stand on its own. It costs more $ and requires more resources than it saves. Bottom line is if someone wont pay you for it it probably isnt worth recycling. Most papers and plastics are a good example. Land fills are not a problem, they do not polute the water systems and they actually produce power. We have plenty of room for them. People recycle because it makes them feel better. There should be more of a focus on re-using materials and reducing packaging materials. Milk should come in glass bottles, potatoe chips should come in metal containers, water should come from a faucet, zip lock bags should be glass bowls with lids, etc. Recycling is not the answer and is actually a problem in most cases..
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Old March 16th, 2013, 09:17 AM   #127
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Basically, most recycling is government suplimented which means that it can not stand on its own. It costs more $ and requires more resources than it saves. Bottom line is if someone wont pay you for it it probably isnt worth recycling. Most papers and plastics are a good example. Land fills are not a problem, they do not polute the water systems and they actually produce power. We have plenty of room for them. People recycle because it makes them feel better. There should be more of a focus on re-using materials and reducing packaging materials. Milk should come in glass bottles, potatoe chips should come in metal containers, water should come from a faucet, zip lock bags should be glass bowls with lids, etc. Recycling is not the answer and is actually a problem in most cases..
Pieces of crap like you are what is killing this earth! How dare you even call yourself "green"!!!
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I try to be enviromentally consious but not a sheep. I now use paper plates as much as possible. I dont have to run my dish washer as much, not putting detergents back into the sewer, I am being a good consumer, and it is like supply and demand. If you want more trees is the world then consume more paper products. My paper plates are not made from the Brazilian Rain forrest, they are made from tree FARMS.
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I try to be enviromentally consious but not a sheep. I now use paper plates as much as possible. I dont have to run my dish washer as much, not putting detergents back into the sewer, I am being a good consumer, and it is like supply and demand. If you want more trees is the world then consume more paper products. My paper plates are not made from the Brazilian Rain forrest, they are made from tree FARMS.
That is bullshit and you know it! You are just too lazy to do dishes!
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Saving energy in many forms.
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I burn old tires to heat my house to save wood and natural gas.
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sarry, I've been trying to figure this one out for the last 8 years. There is no way to make it cost effective. I've even tried the solar/wind combo, and it just doesn't work
How about a secondary water chamber in the wood furnace. Create steam, run a steam powered generator?
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How about a secondary water chamber in the wood furnace. Create steam, run a steam powered generator?
You would burn a shitload more wood.

I don't have my chart on me but it takes a lot more btu's to make water change state to steam than it does to get it to 200 degrees. A log only has a certain amount of btu's in it and if you have an efficient furnace you don't waste much.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #134
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so whats your actual energy bill know that we know you are also using propane. my electric only is 87 with a wife and a kid and we suck at turning lights off
Sorry Missed this earlier.
I have my own tank. I get minimum fill, 200 gallons had it filled in spring of last year. The time before that was 06 before getting ODB.
I previously had a wood stove, for house and one it pole barn.
I don't remember propane costs but less then $1.75 last fill.
I get a discount for owning my tank and paying cash. The propane company I deal with will contact me with their lowest price offer.
Yes i could cut more. I have an older washer and electric dryer in my pole barn.I could winterized pole barn and shut off motion lights and cut more. But I'm in my pole barn a lot.
My point was the power company gets money by raising the cost of providing electric. I think it was like 5 dollars when i moved here ,now they want 32.21. Rate right now is 18.28.
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I'm willing to bet about 45% higher than it would be to run those items off electricity.
Not sure if I'm reading this right. Electric is still higher here than propane. So people save money with propane appliances.
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It would still be a waste of $ . Windmills dont work, just like recycling most materials is a mistake. Dont get me started.
What windmills don't work? Personal? Wind farms? Old windmills?
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Old March 17th, 2013, 01:45 PM   #137
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Pretty much all of the above. There is a reason why when you drive by windmill farms that 1/2 of them arent spinning. They cant aford to fix them because it isnt worth it. Again, government funded wastes of tax payers $.
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Pretty much all of the above. There is a reason why when you drive by windmill farms that 1/2 of them arent spinning. They cant aford to fix them because it isnt worth it. Again, government funded wastes of tax payers $.
I live by a wind farm, we count to see how many are going around.:)
I would have like monies to have gone to communities for energy saving ideas. My friend checked into some large windmills and found that one would provide energy for all his neighbors. He and family own 1 mile of land and high land.
Not a mile square of land but from one road down the road a mile.
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You would burn a shitload more wood.

I don't have my chart on me but it takes a lot more btu's to make water change state to steam than it does to get it to 200 degrees. A log only has a certain amount of btu's in it and if you have an efficient furnace you don't waste much.
http://www.woodsteamgenset.com/Real_...team_Power.pdf

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I live by a wind farm, we count to see how many are going around.:)
I would have like monies to have gone to communities for energy saving ideas. My friend checked into some large windmills and found that one would provide energy for all his neighbors. He and family own 1 mile of land and high land.
Not a mile square of land but from one road down the road a mile.
Would still be a waste of $.
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