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Old March 15th, 2013, 06:55 AM   #161
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You have a family member, would you (even if you were basically an animal) let wild animals carry away your kid if it died? No you would bury it to prevent that from happening.
lol. wrong. Humans are animals, scientifically, of course, but I know you don't buy into all that nonsense, except when it is twisted to fit whatever agenda you're pushing...
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lol. wrong. Humans are animals, scientifically, of course, but I know you don't buy into all that nonsense, except when it is twisted to fit whatever agenda you're pushing...
Wow, way to completely ignore the context of his post by nit picking his wording. He obviously meant that, because we have a higher ability to think, feel, and so on; We care about those that have just died and respect thier empty bodies by putting them in the ground. In doing so, we should see more bodies in the ground because of the age the scientific community has put on humans.

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Wow, way to completely ignore the context of his post by nit picking his wording. He obviously meant that, because we have a higher ability to think, feel, and so on; We care about those that have just died and respect thier empty bodies by putting them in the ground. In doing so, we should see more bodies in the ground because of the age the scientific community has put on humans.

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You guys sure have a lot of shoulds and woulds. This should be like this, if this were the case...This would be the case if... Where are you getting all of your information? I mean, I think I know where it's coming from, but feel free to expound.
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Too much to quote on my phone.

The remains that have been found were generally in caves where they are hidden from Mother Nature.

Ill extend the same challenge to you as aber. Find one fact that proves god other than a book written by man.

Neanderthals share most of the same DNA as a current human but not all. Right there tells you that their DNA has changed. If they had not evolved how did their DNA change.
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Replace aliens with god and here is aber:
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come on aber you are really starting to grasp at straws when presented with facts. find 1 FACT that proves that god exists besides a book that is written by man. find one FACT that disproves the stuff that i have posted tonight.

if you were not brought up ever hearing about god and were presented with the FACTS that both sides have what would you believe?
Ok you know that we cannot prove that God exists, but you cannot prove that he does not exist.
We have the wind, we can feel the wind and see its effects but we cannot see the wind.
As for the bible being written by man you are correct, but it is God inspired. How can man put together the bible over a period of, I might be wrong here but I think it was over 1500 years and spaning thousands of miles apart. This book all coming together to relate the message it gives. From OT to NT God lays out His plan for humanity.
As for the stuff you posted, I don't have time right now but I can tell you they used a dating method of the rocks where they found the artifacts and came up with those numbers. Just like they dated the rock from Mount Saint Helens volcano eruption to be hundreds of thousands of years and we all know that it erupted in the 80's. The dating method is flawed.
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Ok you know that we cannot prove that God exists, but you cannot prove that he does not exist.

I don't think anybody here is trying to prove that god doesn't exist. I could be wrong. It would probably seem like a waste of time to most people, to try and disprove something they don't believe to be real in the first place.


We have the wind, we can feel the wind and see its effects but we cannot see the wind.

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As for the bible being written by man you are correct, but it is God inspired.
How can man put together the bible over a period of, I might be wrong here but I think it was over 1500 years and spaning thousands of miles apart. This book all coming together to relate the message it gives. From OT to NT God lays out His plan for humanity.

Are you asking how stories can be passed down and put together into a book? Hmm, how do you suppose any other world religion/myths were put together?


As for the stuff you posted, I don't have time right now but I can tell you they used a dating method of the rocks where they found the artifacts and came up with those numbers. Just like they dated the rock from Mount Saint Helens volcano eruption to be hundreds of thousands of years and we all know that it erupted in the 80's. The dating method is flawed.

If you actually want to know more about dating and why it's important to use specific types of dating in specific situations and have multiple dating procedures to improve accuracy, go here:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4146 , but I don't think you actually care since you're talking point fit your narrative.

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You are correct mikesova, I'm not trying to disprove god. I just like watching aber squirm and try to disprove facts and logic with wizards and aliens. It makes me
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So much win in this thread. Logic, be gone with you!
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You guys sure have a lot of shoulds and woulds. This should be like this, if this were the case...This would be the case if... Where are you getting all of your information? I mean, I think I know where it's coming from, but feel free to expound.
I thought that revelation may give you encouragement to know that we understand that things can change.

Why are we not seeing more proof of Transitional Fossils in the Fossil record? There should be a bountiful amount of them but there isn't.

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Too much to quote on my phone.

The remains that have been found were generally in caves where they are hidden from Mother Nature.

Ill extend the same challenge to you as aber. Find one fact that proves god other than a book written by man.

Neanderthals share most of the same DNA as a current human but not all. Right there tells you that their DNA has changed. If they had not evolved how did their DNA change.
Any fact that I would bring to you would be anecdotal, based on my experiences. I would say that if you realize how complex this world is, which is something that science does for me, you would realize how amazing someone would have to be to design it that way. I'm not trying to prove God. I'm trying to show you guys a different world view so you can possibly understand why Christians believe what they do.

DNA, It may have been different but we still don't the transitional fossils where a Fish turns into a lizard. For that to work there would have to be a large amount of that transitional species (because if thier traits gave them a better ability to survive, there should be more of them), But there isn't.
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I thought that revelation may give you encouragement to know that we understand that things can change.

Why are we not seeing more proof of Transitional Fossils in the Fossil record? There should be a bountiful amount of them but there isn't.



Any fact that I would bring to you would be anecdotal, based on my experiences. I would say that if you realize how complex this world is, which is something that science does for me, you would realize how amazing someone would have to be to design it that way. I'm not trying to prove God. I'm trying to show you guys a different world view so you can possibly understand why Christians believe what they do.

DNA, It may have been different but we still don't the transitional fossils where a Fish turns into a lizard. For that to work there would have to be a large amount of that transitional species (because if thier traits gave them a better ability to survive, there should be more of them), But there isn't.
Are you all of a sudden a world renowned archaeologist and know how many fossils there should be and shouldn't be? Ever think that a lot of them have either not been found yet, or get "absorbed" back into the Earth? Even you should understand the dust to dust, ashes to ashes crap.

Fossils take time and the right conditions to occur. Think of how many have been lost due to mining, construction, etc. Think of all the animals that die, and we don't have piles of skeletons everywhere. The skeleton has to remain intact and then be preserved. Otherwise, bone can decompose and be lost.

It's pretty obvious humans have been on this Earth a really long time. There are transitional fossils that exist, and that doesn't mean we are going to find every skeleton fossilized for every human or "pre-human" that walked the Earth.

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What if dog is god spelled backwards!
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That is some next level shit right there! What does it mean???? Is god a dog??? Are dogs all gods???? My mind is blown!!!
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What if sdrawkcab in reverse spelled backwards?

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[QUOTE=chadcooper55;3339835]come on aber you are really starting to grasp at straws when presented with facts. find 1 FACT that proves that god exists besides a book that is written by man. find one FACT that disproves the stuff that i have posted tonight.

if you were not brought up ever hearing about god and were presented with the FACTS that both sides have what would you believe?[/QUOTE]

Actually I was brought not knowing about God or going to church. I did however go to school and evolution was taught. The exact stuff you present me with I was taught.
I did believe as you and everybody else that was taught the theroy of evolution.
I then learned about what was not taught in school. Lets just say the light bulb went off in my head.
After examining the facts I have come to the conclusion about the young earth, and it being approx 6000 years old.
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Are you all of a sudden a world renowned archaeologist and know how many fossils there should be and shouldn't be? Ever think that a lot of them have either not been found yet, or get "absorbed" back into the Earth? Even you should understand the dust to dust, ashes to ashes crap.

Fossils take time and the right conditions to occur. Think of how many have been lost due to mining, construction, etc. Think of all the animals that die, and we don't have piles of skeletons everywhere. The skeleton has to remain intact and then be preserved. Otherwise, bone can decompose and be lost.

It's pretty obvious humans have been on this Earth a really long time. There are transitional fossils that exist, and that doesn't mean we are going to find every skeleton fossilized for every human or "pre-human" that walked the Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
Not anymore then you are a world renowned theologian when it comes to talking about a faith.

I under stand that we don't have that many fossils because of decomposition. I just don't understand the lack of those pivotal fossils. A couple of years ago they found Alice, or whatever, and every evolutionary scientist jizzed in their pants. That shows me they don't have many examples.

Ultimately I could care less. I accept that we adapt. I just choose to believe in I the God aside.
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