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Old March 13th, 2013, 12:27 AM   #41
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The Scam with Amsoil is they do not meet specs. To confuse you they use words like

"AMSOIL Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil is excellent for use in all types of gasoline-fueled vehicles. It is recommended for all domestic and foreign vehicles requiring any of the listed performance specifications:

10W-30 (ATM): API SN (Resource Conserving), SM…; ILSAC GF-5, GF-4…; ACEA A5/B5, A1/B1; GM LL-A-025, 6094M, 4718M; Ford WSS-M2C205-A; Chrysler MS-6395"

Nowhere does it say they meet the specification. That alone means you should not run it. they are recommending you use their oil, but do not say it is any good.

If the oil was good they would use

"Mobil 1 High Mileage 5W-30 synthetic motor oil meets or exceeds the requirements of:
ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5 API SL"

Why would you run an oil that does not meet the minimum specifications for your engine? Why don't they meet the specification and why do they try to BS you?
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Old March 13th, 2013, 07:33 AM   #42
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my buddy had an 03 TJ and put Amsoil signature in it and he had a horrible valve train noise. He swapped out the oil with less then 500 miles on it and put in a standard valvoline and the noise went away. He only put the amsoil in to try it and the engine never had a noise before he put that oil in. Both oils were the same weight.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 09:35 AM   #43
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I used to only run this stuff. I then just got tired of scouring around to find a place that sells it then paying 8 bucks a quart for it. I switched to Mobil 1 full syn for everything now so I can get that stuff anywhere. Plus the place by me sells it in the 5.1 quart jugs which saves a bit of $
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my buddy had an 03 TJ and put Amsoil signature in it and he had a horrible valve train noise. He swapped out the oil with less then 500 miles on it and put in a standard valvoline and the noise went away. He only put the amsoil in to try it and the engine never had a noise before he put that oil in. Both oils were the same weight.
If you already knew it was crap oil why'd you start the thread?
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Old March 13th, 2013, 09:51 AM   #45
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I've had great luck with it.

I just swapped over my diesel to it, I'll do a oil analysis on it and report back.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 09:53 AM   #46
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I have had very good results with their Interceptor 2-stroke oil.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 10:00 AM   #47
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I've had great luck with it.

I just swapped over my diesel to it, I'll do a oil analysis on it and report back.
Your track record with Dakota motors seems to indicate otherwise.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 10:23 AM   #48
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The Scam with Amsoil is they do not meet specs. To confuse you they use words like

"AMSOIL Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil is excellent for use in all types of gasoline-fueled vehicles. It is recommended for all domestic and foreign vehicles requiring any of the listed performance specifications:

10W-30 (ATM): API SN (Resource Conserving), SM…; ILSAC GF-5, GF-4…; ACEA A5/B5, A1/B1; GM LL-A-025, 6094M, 4718M; Ford WSS-M2C205-A; Chrysler MS-6395"

Nowhere does it say they meet the specification. That alone means you should not run it. they are recommending you use their oil, but do not say it is any good.

If the oil was good they would use

"Mobil 1 High Mileage 5W-30 synthetic motor oil meets or exceeds the requirements of:
ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5 API SL"

Why would you run an oil that does not meet the minimum specifications for your engine? Why don't they meet the specification and why do they try to BS you?
I highly doubt that they do not meet specs. Amsoil most likely does not want to spend the money to have it certified just so they can put a little label on it, when it will more than likely provide them little to no return on their investment.....
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I highly doubt that they do not meet specs. Amsoil most likely does not want to spend the money to have it certified just so they can put a little label on it, when it will more than likely provide them little to no return on their investment.....
It would sure clear up a lot of arguments though. I would think it is well worth it to get the certs to meet specs.
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I highly doubt that they do not meet specs. Amsoil most likely does not want to spend the money to have it certified just so they can put a little label on it, when it will more than likely provide them little to no return on their investment.....
I disagree. If they had the same specs as a mobil 1 or a valvoline whatever, or a ford motorcraft this.....they'd probably sell more
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It would sure clear up a lot of arguments though. I would think it is well worth it to get the certs to meet specs.
X2 with no specs I will never buy it.
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Your track record with Dakota motors seems to indicate otherwise.
The Amsoil in the transmission seems to be working just fine.

If were gonna go that rout then I'll say this:

"Amsoil does not have the lubricating potential to prevent damage from 1/2" of mud in the oil pan"
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Amsoil's marketing dept. is the secret to their success. Back 5 years ago I ran Ams Dominator in my sleds, not because of scientific proof, but mostly because it was advertised as being the most awesomest. All the cool kids were running it in their snow cross sleds, and I liked the sweet Amsoil stickers.

As far as running synthetic oil in your diesel trucks, if for nothing more than your own piece of mind then by all means go for it. In my own findings through analysis (w/ both Blackstone and MI Cat) Rotella T and Chevron Delo LE dino oil held up just as good, if not better than some of the fancy synthetics when pulled with anywhere from 5k to 10k miles.

The bottom line here is run what you like, regularly scheduled maintainence is key no matter what oil you choose.

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Amsoil's marketing dept. is the secret to their success. Back 5 years ago I ran Ams Dominator in my sleds, not because of scientific proof, but mostly because it was advertised as being the most awesomest. All the cool kids were running it in their snow cross sleds, and I liked the sweet Amsoil stickers.

As far as running synthetic oil in your diesel trucks, if for nothing more than your own piece of mind then by all means go for it. In my own findings through analysis (w/ both Blackstone and MI Cat) Rotella T and Chevron Delo LE dino oil held up just as good, if not better than some of the fancy synthetics when pulled with anywhere from 5k to 10k miles.

The bottom line here is run what you like, regularly scheduled maintainence is key no matter what oil you choose.

I'm going to start using petroleum jelly cut with mineral oil.
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It would sure clear up a lot of arguments though.
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I disagree. If they had the same specs as a mobil 1 or a valvoline whatever, or a ford motorcraft this.....they'd probably sell more
I don't know. I can see where it might, but would it increase sales enough to offset the cost? Hard to say without knowing what the certification(s) cost. Maybe they've done enough research internally to show that it doesn't.
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I'm going to start using petroleum jelly cut with mineral oil.
Make sure you use the good shit. Vaseline brand and Marvel Mystery oil.. since it has been said that it is excellent for use in all types of gasoline-fueled vehicles, even though it isn't actually certified.
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I don't know. I can see where it might, but would it increase sales enough to offset the cost? Hard to say without knowing what the certification(s) cost. Maybe they've done enough research internally to show that it doesn't.
The test is not that much to run, which is nothing compared to sales they lose by not doing it. Every forum for vehicles has this same argument and Amsoil always loses customers. For a company they can easily afford the test since it is nothing compared to the cost of setting up a plant to make oil.
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It's like the Amway of oil.
this...and I swear I was thinking it when I opened this thread.

if you need that kind of marketing to sell a product then you already have lost my interest.
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Amsoil is for ricers like Tupperware is for Moms and Mary Kay for ugly middle aged women and Cutco is for college kids and Meleleuca is for psycho lonely religious old people and Visalus Sciences is for meatheads and and and and.

If it is moved using multi-level marketing (or one of its many other names) it is not to be trusted.
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