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Old March 12th, 2013, 08:39 AM   #41
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Cheaper to put gas in it than to maintain, insure and put gas in 2 of them if your truck gets decent mileage and you're not driving a million miles to work 1 way. If you are, move closer, that'll save you more than a commuter car ever will.
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No they don't. My dad has a 2012 Focus 5 door hatchback with an auto and he regularly gets 35+mpg in mixed driving and has seen 42mpg in long stretches of highway driving. Nice cars and they do very well on fuel. My 01 with a 5 speed averages about 30mpg mixed driving, but the older ones aren't as efficient and I drive pretty aggressively.


Yes, the 40 mpg claim is a lie. I've gotten it in both of my fuckus's on VERY rare occasion. My 5 speed got better mileage than the auto does. The auto averages about 31 mpg in the winter, and 33-34 in the summer, fenton to pontiac and back daily. Mostly on 75 or rural roads doing 45-55 mph.

I got over 40 mpg in both cars going across ohio on 2 lane rural highways with varying speed limits of 50-65 mph. The exact same stretch of road where I was able to pull down over 21 mpg in my superduty.

Anywhere in michigan I drove at 70 mph the best highway trip I could muster was in the 35-38 mpg range. Typically 34-35.

That said, I still think for the money the focus is a decent economy car.
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I am pretty sure the highway mileage # is based off of a 55 MPH constant speed.
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I'll also jump on the skooter doesn't need another car bandwagon.

I drove 120 miles round trip, and the commuter car did save me money overall. But I know where skooter's parents live, and I know where skooter works, and I know skooter doesn't really drive all that far.
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I am pretty sure the highway mileage # is based off of a 55 MPH constant speed.
You are pretty wrong.

EPA testing has changed and includes highway driving that mimics everyday driving of speeds up to 80 mph and fluctuation of speeds as you would see in heavy commuting traffic.

THe actual EPA mpg of the focus is 36-37 for manual and I think 37-38 for Auto and only 40 mpg for the super duper fancy aerodynamic extra mileage focus.....basically the marketing is as close to false advertisement (in my mind) as you can legally get.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 09:10 AM   #46
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http://www.nbcnews.com/business/ford...epa-1C7511815# Weird, some Ford numbers coming under scrutiny...(in fairness Kia got nailed too)

Article detailing a bit more on the actual testing the EPA does, which doesn't sound like setting the cruise at 55 mph and driving for a whole tank of gas to me. http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-mpg-estimates
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Cheaper to put gas in it than to maintain, insure and put gas in 2 of them if your truck gets decent mileage and you're not driving a million miles to work 1 way. If you are, move closer, that'll save you more than a commuter car ever will.
I would guess skooters parents are pretty established where they are and aren't looking to move though.

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I'll also jump on the skooter doesn't need another car bandwagon.

But I know where skooter's parents live, and I know where skooter works, and I know skooter doesn't really drive all that far.
X2....so this would be practical. You're welcome Skoots
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Old March 12th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #50
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That link also shows the 'mountain scooter' "mountin' skooter"
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Old March 12th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #51
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Older subarus with the 2.5l (most if not all outbacks) were notorious for head gasket failures, which is a rather expensive job in an H4 engine. If you can find a Subaru with a 2.2l engine, those were really solid. I'd stay away from focus' too, I've had two, an '01 with 112k and an '07 with 76k, both were extremely cheap feeling and I had suspension issues with both. However, the '07 would pull 43.5 MPG going back and forth to lansing with the cruise at 68. So if you don't mind low quality and noisy rides, the 05+ engine is very good on gas. The '01 only got 35 or so on the expressway.
Loved our 01 Focus... the suspension had a recall on it. We had a spring break, it was replaced free.
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I was looking for the same thing and came home with a new Fiat.

Plus everyone wants too much money for their rust free cars with 200K on them.

But anyway since it's skoots, I think he would look good in a Pink Geo Metro Convertible.
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Tab has a commuter car for sale.
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I was looking for the same thing and came home with a new Fiat.

Plus everyone wants too much money for their rust free cars with 200K on them.

But anyway since it's skoots, I think he would look good in a Pink Geo Metro Convertible.
I think he needs a Fiero.
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Loved our 01 Focus... the suspension had a recall on it. We had a spring break, it was replaced free.
They can be good cars for sure, I just had bad luck with mine, especially my early model one. In all fairness, the '07 was a good reliable car and got fantastic gas mileage. I just happened to have some issues that I don't think should have come up at 76k miles. I do see quite a few of them with high mileage around, as do I see Subarus with 2.5l, but it is worth looking into the head gasket thing because that's a real issue if he's not up for replacing the gasket himself. But Subarus are great cars outside of that issue. ddeadserious on here has a late 90's model with the 2.2l with 183k and he's hardly replaced anything. Rear wheels bearings and struts are about it, he loves it. Goes through snow very well too.
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They can be good cars for sure, I just had bad luck with mine, especially my early model one. In all fairness, the '07 was a good reliable car and got fantastic gas mileage. I just happened to have some issues that I don't think should have come up at 76k miles. I do see quite a few of them with high mileage around, as do I see Subarus with 2.5l, but it is worth looking into the head gasket thing because that's a real issue if he's not up for replacing the gasket himself. But Subarus are great cars outside of that issue. ddeadserious on here has a late 90's model with the 2.2l with 183k and he's hardly replaced anything. Rear wheels bearings and struts are about it, he loves it. Goes through snow very well too.
Actually the subaru sounds perfect for Andy, he can get one, blow the head gasket, collect a bunch of engine swap parts, a STI turbo, some sweet lowering springs and rally car tires, take it all apart and then leave it at a friends house.
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