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Old March 8th, 2013, 07:19 AM   #81
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Brought up in a religion?
Found a religion?
Is there no other right religion, but the one you believe?

Please avoid bashing. I am only asking out of curiosity and understanding.
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I'm an atheist and I don't give a shit about the separate of church and state. When I go to the girlfriends family's house for supper they pray before they eat. I think about beer and boobies. As long as you don't lecture me about my faith I don't care what you want to do.
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presbyterian until 8
catholic since then, catholic school, catholic high school (*seminary)

Now believe in myself and have open eyes to my future and how to get there.
still believe in God just in case
This line of thinking is known as Pascal's Gamble.
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There is no "atheist thought process". Nuggets, do you actively believe in any gods (not think there "could or might be")? If no, you lack a belief in god(s), therefore you would be an atheist, just like everyone was before they were indoctrinated into their particular flavor or religion.

That lack of belief in a god or gods, is the ONLY thing that links atheists as a "group". It is the only characteristic that you can say about an atheist. There are liberal atheists, conservative atheists, atheists that are anti-religion, atheists that are apathetic towards religion, etc.
There IS an Atheist thought process, don't be ashamed of it. As a Deist, I believe the universe is alive, a living thing per se. I also believe the thing that is the universe (I don't asign human like characteristics or gender to it) does not really get involved with with us nor do we have to kiss it's ass for good things to happen. I just don't believe that the Universe as a whole is an inanimate object(s) just floating around interacting with no real cause or purpose. I also don't believe 100% in the Big Bang Theory. It is a theory and is subject to change as new evidence arrises and I'm comfortable with that.

I understand atheism is a complete lack of religion and that's ok. I also understand Atheists form a complete cross section of the general population, good and bad. Be comfortable with your belief system (yes, it IS a belief system even if it lacks magic cloud men). You try to pigeon hole people who are not from a major religious group into rigid definitions, let it go. If you wish, you can call me an Atheist or Diest, or even mashed potatos for all I care. I'm comfortable about my line of thinking and my conceived definitions of it. There is no shame in your beliefs as I feel there is no shame in mine. One thing I don't do is try to convert people to my way of thinking. I just present what I believe in without trying to convince people they should think just like me. That's not to say I will not drag a religious person down and beat them with their own book of faith should they say I must think like they do or I am a bad person. I hate misinformation presented as facts.

Oh well, the true answer will be known when we die. I, like you believe that when we die, we just simply do not exist anymore. No Heaven, no Hell, just a situation that is the same as before we were conceived.

Also, I'm trying to keep everything civil in this there per OP's request. I love talking about religion and debunking things presented as fact or a scewed logic process. I have a field day when Johova's witnesses come to my door.

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This line of thinking is known as Pascal's Gamble.
I always understood pascal'a wager as reasoning why a person should believe in Christianity. The way he put it sounds more like fire insurance.
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I always understood pascal'a wager as reasoning why a person should believe in Christianity. The way he put it sounds more like fire insurance.
Kind of a sissy approach to me. Pick a side and run with it. My opinion of people that say they believe "just in case" truly don't believe in (a) God. To me they seem like unconfident Atheists. Note to Mike: Not slamming the Atheist point of veiw.
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There IS an Atheist thought process, don't be ashamed of it. As a Deist, I believe the universe is alive, a living thing per se. I also believe the thing that is the universe (I don't asign human like characteristics or gender to it) does not really get involved with with us nor do we have to kiss it's ass for good things to happen. I just don't believe that the Universe as a whole is an inanimate object(s) just floating around interacting with no real cause or purpose. I also don't believe 100% in the Big Bang Theory. It is a theory and is subject to change as new evidence arrises and I'm comfortable with that.

I understand atheism is a complete lack of religion and that's ok. I also understand Atheists form a complete cross section of the general population, good and bad. Be comfortable with your belief system (yes, it IS a belief system even if it lacks magic cloud men). You try to pigeon hole people who are not from a major religious group into rigid definitions, let it go. If you wish, you can call me an Atheist or Diest, or even mashed potatos for all I care. I'm comfortable about my line of thinking and my conceived definitions of it. There is no shame in your beliefs as I feel there is no shame in mine. One thing I don't do is try to convert people to my way of thinking. I just present what I believe in without trying to convince people they should think just like me. That's not to say I will not drag a religious person down and beat them with their own book of faith should they say I must think like they do or I am a bad person. I hate misinformation presented as facts.

Oh well, the true answer will be known when we die. I, like you believe that when we die, we just simply do not exist anymore. No Heaven, no Hell, just a situation that is the same as before we were conceived.

Also, I'm trying to keep everything civil in this there per OP's request. I love talking about religion and debunking things presented as fact or a scewed logic process. I have a field day when Johova's witnesses come to my door.
Respectfully Disagree. Not believing in something doesn't assign a person a specific thought process. Do people who don't believe in trolls have a specific thought process? How about people who don't believe in ghosts?

Also, you obviously don't quite grasp atheism, if you're calling it a belief system. It is a label for people who DON'T believe in one specific thing. Also, it's quite silly to tell somebody that a label that describes ONE thing that they DON'T believe in describes their other beliefs. It doesn't. Atheists can and do believe in all kinds of things. An atheist can not believe in god, yet believe in pseudo science, or aliens, or whatever. Saying someone is an atheist doesn't mean that they are automatically a champion of science or anything else. It simply means they do not subscribe to the belief of a god or gods for whatever reason.
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Kind of a sissy approach to me. Pick a side and run with it. My opinion of people that say they believe "just in case" truly don't believe in (a) God. To me they seem like unconfident Atheists. Note to Mike: Not slamming the Atheist point of veiw.
Jesus mentions this a couple of times. "For you are Luke warm so I will spit you out. " Or the story of the rich young man. God wants all of us, not just to be a back up plan.
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I am Pentecostal. Was more or less raised Pentecostal. I believe that God created the earth and all that is on it/in it. I also believe he sent his Son Jesus to earth to live a perfect sinnless life for 33 1/2 years and spread the Gospel and train his desciples. I believe he died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of mankind. I believe he was put into a tomb and on the third day afterward he rose and lived on earth for 40 days. I believe that after those 40 days he ascended back to the Father and sits at his side awaiting the moment when he will come back and take up his church.

That is what I believe. Call me a bible thumper,holy roller, or what have you. I will pray for you and hope that you have a personal experience with Christ. We as Christians are charged with trying to win the lost for the up building of Gods Kingdom. John 3:17 says that God didn't send his son to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. I will stick with my beliefs and know that there is something better after life here
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I am Pentecostal. Was more or less raised Pentecostal. I believe that God created the earth and all that is on it/in it. I also believe he sent his Son Jesus to earth to live a perfect sinnless life for 33 1/2 years and spread the Gospel and train his desciples. I believe he died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of mankind. I believe he was put into a tomb and on the third day afterward he rose and lived on earth for 40 days. I believe that after those 40 days he ascended back to the Father and sits at his side awaiting the moment when he will come back and take up his church.

That is what I believe. Call me a bible thumper,holy roller, or what have you. I will pray for you and hope that you have a personal experience with Christ. We as Christians are charged with trying to win the lost for the up building of Gods Kingdom. John 3:17 says that God didn't send his son to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. I will stick with my beliefs and know that there is something better after life here
Do you speak in tongues? Just curious.
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Do you speak in tongues? Just curious.
I have had the "uttering" as it is called, never full out speaking in tounges. But yes I believe in it.
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Respectfully Disagree. Not believing in something doesn't assign a person a specific thought process. Do people who don't believe in trolls have a specific thought process? How about people who don't believe in ghosts?

Also, you obviously don't quite grasp atheism, if you're calling it a belief system. It is a label for people who DON'T believe in one specific thing. Also, it's quite silly to tell somebody that a label that describes ONE thing that they DON'T believe in describes their other beliefs. It doesn't. Atheists can and do believe in all kinds of things. An atheist can not believe in god, yet believe in pseudo science, or aliens, or whatever. Saying someone is an atheist doesn't mean that they are automatically a champion of science or anything else. It simply means they do not subscribe to the belief of a god or gods for whatever reason.
Nobody I know believes that trolls or ghosts were the creators of the world and control who gets in to the afterlife. Telling someone that believes that god created the universe that you do not believe in god is making a major statement about your belief of the purpose of our very existence.

Threw out all of recorded human history most cultures have had some creation myth that involved some supernatural being. to say that you do not believe in any of them certainly involves a different thought process.
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trolls were the creators of the world and control who gets in to the afterlife. .
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I'm ready for more discussion.
Ok. Atheism IS a thought process. It's a process of logic, deductive reasoning, and critical thinking. I respect and admire all of that but for me, I don't think atheism has all the answers. I can align myself more with the atheist point of veiw more than most other religious logic. Before you get your godless panties bunched up, I am not refering to atheism as a religion, only the thought processed used by religions.
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