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Old March 7th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #41
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exactly! you need to pay your registration fees just like everyone else.

where i use my toys is no ones concern, cause i paid my fair share to obama.
I can say the same about my toys. Those toys being bicycles that I ride on the road. You're not entitled to the road just because it goes vroom vroom. I pay taxes just like you.
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Old March 7th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #42
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Just as much of a right as driving a car on the road. So yeah, it's a privilege. Either way, cyclists have the legal ability to be on the road per Michigan state law.
so it would not be that out of line to suggest that they have to pay to do so
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Old March 8th, 2013, 06:36 AM   #43
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so it would not be that out of line to suggest that they have to pay to do so
Sure, I guess. But how do you enforce it on a rail trail? Bike cops? You can't drive on it with the squad car. What if a person buys a bike with no intention to ride it on the road? Do they just have to get an ORV sticker for it?

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You don't ride your snow mobile on the roads, or buy ORV stickers so you can ride on the roads. You pay to register for your plates to ride on the roads.

It's a Cyclists legal right to ride on the road. Most of which pay taxes for thier cars that they leave in thier driveway.

You can shove it if you think you own the roads in a motor vehicle.

That's not even the point though. It's the ridiculous nature of the bill that the OP was talking about.
That is why I don't ride my snowmobile or ORV on the road. I did not register it to be driven on the road. All you did was make my point clear. The toys I have that are registered to be on the road are used on the road and my off road toys that are not used on roads are not registered to be on the road.

People on their bikes on the roads do nothing but impead trafic and think they are better than you because they are helping the enviornment. They need to get off their high horse and pay their way to use the roads like the rest os us.


I know that this is not what the OP thread is about, but since when has that stopped anyone on here from going off and discussing other topics in the threads.

So you can shove it and start paying to use the roads with your bikes like everyone else on the roads.
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That is why I don't ride my snowmobile or ORV on the road. I did not register it to be driven on the road. All you did was make my point clear. The toys I have that are registered to be on the road are used on the road and my off road toys that are not used on roads are not registered to be on the road.

People on their bikes on the roads do nothing but impead trafic and think they are better than you because they are helping the enviornment. They need to get off their high horse and pay their way to use the roads like the rest os us.


I know that this is not what the OP thread is about, but since when has that stopped anyone on here from going off and discussing other topics in the threads.

So you can shove it and start paying to use the roads with your bikes like everyone else on the roads.
You're an idiot.

Do you want little kids who ride their bikes to pay registration fees too? What about people who walk on the side of the road? Where do you draw the line?

It's a non motorized vehicle. It is doing no damage to the road, and just like any other pedestrian it has the exact same rights to be on the road. No different than a walker, runner, person walking their dog etc.

If a bicyclist who is riding on the road is such an inconvenience for you I suggest you run them over and get them out of your way....or wait the whopping 30 seconds it will take to have a clearing to safely pass them.

Some people's entitlement to the road just because they are in a car cracks me the fukc up.

Though, this topic is about taxing the AIR you BREATHE. So it should be likened more to taxing the air we breathe, taxing you for letting it rain on your grass, taxing you for sun tanning at a beach on the sand you made a sand castle out of, taxing you for swimming in a lake, etc.
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It amazes me that any of you would defend a tax on fucking breathing. We're going to have an amazing country in 20 years.
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I don't really support the tax to breath, but I do support a tax or registration with everything with a spark plug, including lawn mowers,, chain saws, wood splitters, ect. I also support bikes having to pay registration fee's regardless of where the user plans on using it and even if they are kids(parents would pay). The government needs money somehow, where do you think it's going to come from?
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I don't really support the tax to breath, but I do support a tax or registration with everything with a spark plug, including lawn mowers,, chain saws, wood splitters, ect. I also support bikes having to pay registration fee's regardless of where the user plans on using it and even if they are kids(parents would pay). The government needs money somehow, where do you think it's going to come from?
I think we should just tax families who have twins, not normal kids, but twins, seems more logical.
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I don't really support the tax to breath, but I do support a tax or registration with everything with a spark plug, including lawn mowers,, chain saws, wood splitters, ect. I also support bikes having to pay registration fee's regardless of where the user plans on using it and even if they are kids(parents would pay). The government needs money somehow, where do you think it's going to come from?
Typical dipshit attitude represents all that is wrong. Thanks for posting satire.

The ony reason why cycling has not been promoted more as a public transportation solution is because there is no big corporate dollars in it. Communities across the country that embrace it reap benefits.

But fukc that, lets build bullet trains and people movers that no one will use, because that's where the big bucks are.

From the heart, I do believe there are simple solutions to the complex problems facing our nation.
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I think we should just tax families who have twins, not normal kids, but twins, seems more logical.
thats absurd, however taxing what I suggested is not. How is the government going to pay for obummer care, welfare, bridge card and all the other hand out programs? Like it or not those programs are necessary and I fully support them. Without them good people that refuse to work would not be able to survive or feed their families.
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When I was little, Roseville required bicycles to be registered. You got a sticker that went on the frame of the bike with a registration number.

Upshot, if your bike was stolen and the cops found it, they looked up the owner in the registration records and called you to come get your bike.
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That is why I don't ride my snowmobile or ORV on the road. I did not register it to be driven on the road. All you did was make my point clear. The toys I have that are registered to be on the road are used on the road and my off road toys that are not used on roads are not registered to be on the road.
I'm going to suggest we start forcing people to register thier shoes when the buy them too. I mean, people walk on the side of the road, they should pay up!



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People on their bikes on the roads do nothing but impead trafic and think they are better than you because they are helping the enviornment. They need to get off their high horse and pay their way to use the roads like the rest os us.
I do'nt think I'm better then anybody when I'm riding my bike on the road. Which, BTW, is something I did daily as a commuter for a few years. I try not to impede traffic when I can. If I have to though, I make sure that I am safe and make sure you aren't goign to try to pass me when it's not safe for you to pass me. That's not because I think I'm better then you, I just know people don't have any regard to the safety of people on bikes if they feel inconvicned.

[stands on top of soap box} With that, I want to say this. You're in a freaking car. You have more convenience then probably 95% of the worlds population by even having 1 car and your complaining because you can't use your brain enough to give your self enough time to make it to where your going early. Boo Fricking Who! [steps off soap box]


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I know that this is not what the OP thread is about, but since when has that stopped anyone on here from going off and discussing other topics in the threads.

So you can shove it and start paying to use the roads with your bikes like everyone else on the roads.
I have no problem paying a registration fee for my bike. It's a sport I enjoy very much and it's saved my family hundreds of dollars in Gas over the last 3 years. If I have to pay to have that convenience and the added benefit of staying in better shape, I'll pay it.

If that happens though, I expect any road commission maintained side walks to be taxed accordingly. Shoe tax. Dead Serious. IF I'm paying money to ride my bike and maintain those side walks, those people, including the kintergarders, better pay up to!
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thats absurd, however taxing what I suggested is not. How is the government going to pay for obummer care, welfare, bridge card and all the other hand out programs? Like it or not those programs are necessary and I fully support them. Without them good people that refuse to work would not be able to survive or feed their families.
That's porous. We all know taxing things with spark plugs is racist.
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