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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #1
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Newbie welder in search of the right shielding gas

I am a newbie welder on my first build that I need to weld on. I have a Hobart Handler 210, and I am trying to figure out what gas is going to be best for me. I will be doing some body/sheetmetal work as well as building some 1/4 bumpers. And tabs, brackets, motor mounts, an so on. From what I have read I think a bottle of 85/15 would be my ticket, but I was hoping to get some info from the more experienced ones out there. Also, that mix is 85 co2 15 argon right? And where should I get from. And how do the tanks work? I was told I could do a 100 year lease, but I was also told I had to buy one. Anyone get their gas from TSC? How do the tanks work for that?

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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #2
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I would go to flint welding supply if i were you. Better than michigan air gas.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:48 PM   #3
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for doing that light of work...yes. a mix gas of co2 and argon is best. straight co2(aka...farmers gas) is good where you are dealing with heavy metal and need deep penetration, but it spatters and leaves an ugly weld. mix gas gives you slightly lighter penetration but leaves a cleaner prettier weld. as far as tanks go...they generally sell you the tank outright and you take it back for a refill. leases only benefit you if you refill your tank like 10 times a year or more. hope this helps.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #4
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I use a 75/25 mix argon co2. I get mine from Plymouth Wayne welding in garden city and I own my tanks
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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:55 PM   #5
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Go to tsc and buy an LD size tank of their welding gas. They call it something like auto mig. It's 75%/25% argon/co2. When you run out you just go exchange the tank. Usually the guys working there are pretty dumb so just make sure you get a full one of the right gas.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 08:16 PM   #6
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Great sounds good. Another question though, how much should I plan on spending on the tank itself?I'm not sure what size I would get seeing as I am only getting started in this stuff, but I am typically willing to spend more to get a better price. Meaning I would spend 100 bucks for 10 oz instead of 5 bucks for 2 oz. Thanks again.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 08:18 PM   #7
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150-200 for a tank
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 10:55 AM   #8
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Anybody ever deal with Lessor's in Flint?
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 12:32 PM   #9
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I did up until recently - had a bad experience with my CO2 tank going out for certification, then not coming back for almost seven weeks. They blamed the certification company, but Flint Welding said that was way outside of the "normal" range for certification. I think they lost track of it and gave me a load of BS. Unfortunately my understanding is Flint Welding does not refill CO2 while you wait, but don't quote me on that.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 08:13 PM   #10
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Thanks for that info phittie. On a good note though, I got a free cylinder from a guy I am working with, just the small one he used for his kegerator. It is labeled for co2, but I was hoping I could have it filled 75/25. Does anyone know if that would be possible? Or would I need a second cylinder labeled 75/25? Also, who knows how often cylinders need to be pressured checked and how much that costs? Thanks again.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:40 PM   #11
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Does anyone know how often tanks need to be certified or whatever they do to check them?
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