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Old March 6th, 2013, 09:10 AM   #1
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Water boarding is torcher but unmanned drone strikes to kill American citizens is not out of the question.
Dictator Obama is here.

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Old March 6th, 2013, 09:32 AM   #2
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Water boarding is torcher but unmanned drone strikes to kill American citizens is not out of the question.
Dictator Obama is here.

http://redflagnews.com/headlines/use...inst-americans
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Old March 6th, 2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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I don't like Obama.
I don't like Holder.

But, the situation is twisted. The question was if there was ever an instance where we would use drones on our soil. The question, and Holder's response was purely hypothetical and used 911 as an instance of defending against terrorism.

To me, since it's purely hypothetical and we can't define all of the scenarios, and it was related to terrorism, I suppose there could be an instance where we would need to defend our country, within our country.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 12:53 PM   #4
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If the police saw someone that they reasonable believed was about to commit murder, and could stop it by shooting, should they? Or should they wait until the murder has been committed and just arrest them? Is this any different?
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Old March 6th, 2013, 01:01 PM   #5
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:14 PM   #6
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I'm thankful God has forgiven me because this is a tough crowd and don't think i'd get much here.

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I don't like Obama.
I don't like Holder.

But, the situation is twisted. The question was if there was ever an instance where we would use drones on our soil. The question, and Holder's response was purely hypothetical and used 911 as an instance of defending against terrorism.

To me, since it's purely hypothetical and we can't define all of the scenarios, and it was related to terrorism, I suppose there could be an instance where we would need to defend our country, within our country.
Defending our country is something that our government is required to do and I suppose how they do it is important. Are they expecting to fight and attack enemies on this soil as they have been doing in other countries?
Have our borders become so pourious that our enemies are here hiding in large numbers to warrent the use of drones?
I could see innocent people(americans) getting caught in the middle of this.

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If the police saw someone that they reasonable believed was about to commit murder, and could stop it by shooting, should they? Or should they wait until the murder has been committed and just arrest them? Is this any different?
So you are saying if the unmaned drone sees something going down from 5000 feet up to take action and fire a missle to take out the threat?
I also think due process comes into play for American citizens.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:23 PM   #7
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Thanks, I thought it looked odd as I spelled it out but was on my way out the door.
I'm thankful God has forgiven me because this is a tough crowd and don't think i'd get much here.



Defending our country is something that our government is required to do and I suppose how they do it is important. Are they expecting to fight and attack enemies on this soil as they have been doing in other countries?
Have our borders become so pourious that our enemies are here hiding in large numbers to warrent the use of drones?
I could see innocent people(americans) getting caught in the middle of this.



So you are saying if the unmaned drone sees something going down from 5000 feet up to take action and fire a missle to take out the threat?
I also think due process comes into play for American citizens.
But what about illegal aliens?
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I don't like Obama.
I don't like Holder.

But, the situation is twisted. The question was if there was ever an instance where we would use drones on our soil....... <===>it's coming here http://gizmodo.com/5987703/why-is-th...n-sunny-malibu .
no more hypotheticals......the real world according to our guberment is getting pretty brown-shirt but there is hope if you stand up for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku1...ature=youtu.be
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:25 PM   #9
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #10
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But what about illegal aliens?
There are no illegal aliens, just undocumented immigrants.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:43 PM   #11
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But what about illegal aliens?
Drone strikes at the border when they attempt to cross over. I.m all for that, kinda expensive though.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 05:33 PM   #12
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Good gravy.. From this statement:

In the letter, Holder said “It is possible I suppose to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. “


People are falling all over themselves talking about killing citizens with drones?
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Old March 6th, 2013, 06:45 PM   #13
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american citizens have the right to due process. the constitution is pretty clear on that.

who decides when i am enough of a threat to have a drone take me out?(obama, holder)

what about collateral damage to innocent american citizens?

this is just wrong!
try concussion grenades, perhaps some kind of gas or nerve agent.
drones are not needed to stop most threats. fbi can handle it.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #14
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This is way out of proportion. It was a hypothetical witch hunt question.

Keep in mind, during 911 and they didn't know where the last plane was that was thought to be headed for the White House, there was a shoot down order. No one bitched about it because it made sense. And if it had happened, U.S. citizens would have been killed without due process.

Why are we even talking about this? I hate the dems right now but it's a witch hunt.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #15
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So you are saying if the unmaned drone sees something going down from 5000 feet up to take action and fire a missle to take out the threat?
I also think due process comes into play for American citizens.
No, because the drones people are talking about are not the ones from the science fiction spy movies roving the sky automatically and autonomously with the ability to "see something going down from 5000 feet" and launch a missile on it's own. The drones of reality are not much more that large remote controlled (as in controlled by a human remotely) aircraft with cameras and weapons. The decision to take action and fire will still be made by a human, presumably someone in law enforcement. So while it's a bigger gun with a longer reach, it is still a lawman with a gun.

So again, if the police see someone that they reasonably believe is about to commit murder, and could stop it by shooting, should they? Or should they wait until the murder has been committed and just arrest them? Is this any different?
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american citizens have the right to due process. the constitution is pretty clear on that.

who decides when i am enough of a threat to have a drone take me out?(obama, holder)

what about collateral damage to innocent american citizens?

this is just wrong!
try concussion grenades, perhaps some kind of gas or nerve agent.
drones are not needed to stop most threats. fbi can handle it.
Any police officer with a gun can decide you're enough of a threat to take out.

And I'm pretty sure a drone could be equipped with something non-lethal.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 09:04 PM   #18
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Why would Aber or any of his family be worried about dying? Don't they want to go to Heaven? Maybe attack drones are just God's way of saying "Come on up ma bitches!".
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Old March 6th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #19
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Drone strikes at the border when they attempt to cross over. I.m all for that, kinda expensive though.
So in your Christian views, it is o.k. to kill people for crossing the border?
But you are worried about the expense?
Oh wait, you will just be forgiven
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