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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #1
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Default Home (Basement) Insulation Question

Trying to finish my basement. Previous owners had already partially finished it in that they put up foam board on the block walls, then 2x4 walls, and then dry wall (they did not tape, mud, or finish the walls at all). They did not put anything in the cavity of the wall. To meet code I've gotta get a minimum of R13 so I have to add some form of insulation.

What I'm hoping to find is foam that can be sprayed into my finished walls so that I dont have to pull all the dry wall down. Any one come across a product or company that offers a product/service like this? If not I'll have a fun weekend of pulling down dry wall that was nailed in place
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Old March 5th, 2013, 05:48 PM   #2
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You could use fiberglass or cellulose loose fill insulation. Lowes,Home Depot, and Menards will allow you the use of the blower with purchase of any of the above products. Simply drill an approx. 2" hole with a Hole saw attahed to a drill. Set the piece aside to patch the wall.
Insert hose in wall. Try to feed it to the bottom of the cavity. Pull the hose up as the cavity fills. Make sure to keep a rag around the hole, as otherwise the dust will blow all over! After cavity is full use put plug of drywall back in wall to patch. Better yet fun a crown molding to hide the holes.
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If its not taped or mudded can't you just unscrew the boards to remove them and put batts behind it. Simplemans idea is good too, blown in is easy.
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Its a bit of a pain in the ass to fill all the holes you drilled, i agree to just take down the top piece of sheetrock and stuff it. Much faster and less effort. Also make sure all your wiring and everything is done before you start insulating. Always a good time to add some speaker wire or coax/ network cable.
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code now requires insulation for basements?

what the hell?
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What's with all this code shit? What the city can't see, they don't need to know.
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what the hell?
He does live in Indiana



We built our house 11 years ago and I have 2x4's screwed to the concrete wall going horizontal then I put 2" foam board in between the 2x4's then drywall glued and screwed to the 2x4's. it meets all codes here.
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I would think there would be glue as well as screws. I 2nd the putting holes and blowing it in
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We built our house 11 years ago and I have 2x4's screwed to the concrete wall going horizontal then I put 2" foam board in between the 2x4's then drywall glued and screwed to the 2x4's. it meets all codes here.
most states have adopted the former BOCA code and/or ICC's international code

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This is 'Murrica! We don't need no international codes!
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I know that.

I was just poking at a fellow club member for living so far away
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I can't remember the name of the company that did the spray foam in my house. They also did the injection foaming where they pop a hole in the drywall, shove a hose in there and fill it up. I started a thread on here about it. When I get on a real computer and not my phone I will get a link.
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there is a link in there for the website of the guy i went through. he is a member one here.
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I would think there would be glue as well as screws. I 2nd the putting holes and blowing it in
People actually glue and screw drywall? Never heard of that before.
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If its not taped or mudded can't you just unscrew the boards to remove them and put batts behind it. Simplemans idea is good too, blown in is easy.
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Its a bit of a pain in the ass to fill all the holes you drilled, i agree to just take down the top piece of sheetrock and stuff it. Much faster and less effort. Also make sure all your wiring and everything is done before you start insulating. Always a good time to add some speaker wire or coax/ network cable.
and unfortunately they ran all the boards vertical

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yup, my county requires R13 in basement walls
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Use a hole saw, 1" in size and fill each cavitiy from the top, careful not to over fill you could pop the boards off the wall. This will be faster in the long run.
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People actually glue and screw drywall? Never heard of that before.
Really? All the drywall work I have taken down has had liquid nails and then screws holding. In my limited homeowner experience and a couple friends houses.
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Really? All the drywall work I have taken down has had liquid nails and then screws holding. In my limited homeowner experience and a couple friends houses.

x2 Same here. Sure makes the walls solid doing it that way. And a pain in the butt to replace the drywall.
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Then id suggest while youre there to put some screws in it so it doesnt get pulled off the wall when you decide to hang something on it.
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Right now the plan is to just pull all the dry wall (save what i can for interior walls). Then seal whatever open seams there are in the 1/2" foam board they put up, run my electrical and what not, then put back in R13 fiberglass batting, and finish off with moisture resistant dry wall that is screwed into place.

I was quoted $2k for spray foam if the dry wall is down, and I would assume that any other company that can spray foam in with dry wall up would be about the same cost. I estimated that I'd have $1k into new dry wall and fiberglass batting. I think $1k savings is worth my time.
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