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Old March 3rd, 2013, 10:05 PM   #61
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Why does the DHS feel that a pregnant woman would be pointing a gun at a DHS officer?
the pregnant woman kinda reminds me of that Octomom lady. Maybe she should be shot.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 10:21 PM   #62
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I've spent about an hour trying to find any response anywhere from DHS- nothing, not even a statement refuting the report.

Mind you, most of the search brings up ultra conservative conspiracy sites.

It would be interesting to see some sort of 'official' statement.


Personally, my feelings are that DHS did in fact order these targets, and the training is for the possibility of rioting in major cities due to natural disasters or economic strife. (NOT total financial collapse, we've already seen that the Fed won't allow banks to fail)
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 10:23 PM   #63
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its a bad picture and its not getting prettier
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 10:27 PM   #64
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I've spent about an hour trying to find any response anywhere from DHS- nothing, not even a statement refuting the report.

Mind you, most of the search brings up ultra conservative conspiracy sites.

It would be interesting to see some sort of 'official' statement.


Personally, my feelings are that DHS did in fact order these targets, and the training is for the possibility of rioting in major cities due to natural disasters or economic strife. (NOT total financial collapse, we've already seen that the Fed won't allow banks to fail)
I did the same with the same results. I found nothing definitely stating that the DHS request these type of targets.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 05:07 AM   #65
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I did the same with the same results. I found nothing definitely stating that the DHS request these type of targets.
Which is what I asked way back in post #9. If it's true, it bothers me. But I don't yet know it's true.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 08:40 AM   #66
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It just keeps getting better...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...edator-drones/

Homeland Security's specifications for its drones, built by San Diego-based General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, say they "shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not," meaning carrying a shotgun or rifle. They also specify "signals interception" technology that can capture communications in the frequency ranges used by mobile phones, and "direction finding" technology that can identify the locations of mobile devices or two-way radios.
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Nothing new there, especially with cell phones. Hell, there are apps to track your kids using their cell phones.


I just wonder if the drones can tell the difference between a rifle and a broomstick. I know that the Roseville police cannot.
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Who put the word civilian in there? What good is a drone without a camera????? Blatantly biased garbage being reported as truth and passed around the net.

What the spec actually says without the tinfoil hat slant:

3.5.3.1.7 Shall (T) be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not (based on position of arms) at a slant range of one and a half times the specified Operating Altitude.
3.5.3.1.8 Shall (T) have selectable video rates up to 30 frames/sec.
3.5.3.1.9 Shall (T) provide National Television Standards Committee (NTSC)-formatted video transmission.
3.5.3.1.10 Shall (T) be capable of recognizing a back pack or bundle carried by a human being at a slant range of two times the specified operational altitude.
3.5.3.1.11 Shall (T) be capable of marking a target into a retrievable database.


worse than the shit cnn puts out. At least they have a shred of accountability. Any actual threat to rights or liberty would be lost in the sea of conspiracy garbage
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I love this thread! Now I can wear my brand new tinfoil hat.
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Who put the word civilian in there? What good is a drone without a camera????? Blatantly biased garbage being reported as truth and passed around the net.

What the spec actually says without the tinfoil hat slant:

3.5.3.1.7 Shall (T) be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not (based on position of arms) at a slant range of one and a half times the specified Operating Altitude.
3.5.3.1.8 Shall (T) have selectable video rates up to 30 frames/sec.
3.5.3.1.9 Shall (T) provide National Television Standards Committee (NTSC)-formatted video transmission.
3.5.3.1.10 Shall (T) be capable of recognizing a back pack or bundle carried by a human being at a slant range of two times the specified operational altitude.
3.5.3.1.11 Shall (T) be capable of marking a target into a retrievable database.


worse than the shit cnn puts out. At least they have a shred of accountability. Any actual threat to rights or liberty would be lost in the sea of conspiracy garbage
So I guess we're not pissed about Bush's Patriot Act anymore.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #71
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I'm more concerned about their purchase of state of the art armored vehicles. The shit they bought for DHS with no justifiable reason is better than what they will buy for our Soldiers and Marines in Afghanistan.
I'm with you.

DHS has purchased 2,717 MRAPs (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicles.

IS there something sinister going on here or do they have justification for all this weaponry?

I'm all for DHS being prepared for what they're supposed to be doing, but DHS's stated goal is to prepare for, prevent, and respond to domestic emergencies, particularly terrorism. Are they really expecting THAT many terrorists to flood into the country?

As stated earlier in this thread, the military in the Iraq war used only 70 million rounds annually compared to much larger order from DHS (five rounds for every living soul in the US).

This isn't only coming from tinfoil-hat sources:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...-many-bullets/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2921337/posts
http://www.businessinsider.com/homel...ts-mrap-2013-3
http://www.examiner.com/article/dhs-...mored-vehicles
http://www.teaparty.org/why-would-dh...et-tanks-21030

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