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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:40 AM   #41
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The 2000 1500 5.3 that I had was 285 hp & 325 ft lb of torque with a 3.73 dif. The 2004 2500 HD 6.0 that I had was 300 hp & 360 ft lb of torque with a 4.10 gear. Pretty hard for me to understand how anyone thinks there is no difference.

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Old April 9th, 2012, 06:17 AM   #42
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The 2000 1500 5.3 that I had was 285 hp & 325 ft lb of torque with a 3.73 dif. The 2004 2500 HD 6.0 that I had was 300 hp & 360 ft lb of torque with a 4.10 gear. Pretty hard for me to understand how anyone thinks there is no difference.

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Just by my ass in the seat meter I noticed my 2007 new style 5.3 being better than my 2000. Also hoserjockery has 6.0 trucks and they all towed night and day better than my 5.3 did.

I completely agree with you. I think the 5.3 tows a little better than you did, but I would never consider one if I lived near hills.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 07:19 AM   #43
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Good point on his budget. I still wouldn't be too worried about brakes if he has good trailer brakes and is only towing 1500 miles a year. But, it's hard to beat a 2500 HD.

Mclovin, I don't see how you can ever say a 5.3 will out tow a 6.0. There is no way I would trailer in the mountains with a 5.3. My 5.3 struggled to stay in OD across flat Michigan with a head wind. My 6.0 would only downshift on hills. UNTIL..... I put 285's on it. It was a huge mistake and definitely lost power.
I rode with Brad down to Windrock and his Avalanche has the 5.3. Every single incline we went up that poor thing downshifted to like second gear and I'd imagine it was running like 4500rpms the majority of the trip...

The wife drives an F250 with a 6.0 Powerstroke, its a waste and overkill for a DD, but it doesn't matter what you hitch behind it. It doesn't care.

I guess if I were looking for a tow rig in the $8-10k range I'd be looking at a late 90's early 2000's 7.3. Its probably way over kill for what you want to do, but is it better to drive something that is overkill or to kill something that you are using past it's abilities.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 06:43 PM   #44
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Tough to find a nice rust free Ford around here isn't it? I'd love to have a 7.3L.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 07:14 PM   #45
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Can you get a car seat in the back seat of the late 90's for extended cabs?
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Old April 9th, 2012, 08:25 PM   #46
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Can you get a car seat in the back seat of the late 90's for extended cabs?
Yes, but its very tight. The third door ones help.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #47
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Yes, but its very tight. The third door ones help.
Another reason I suggested a 4 door older truck. They are roomy as heck.

After about 100 miles of the kid kicking the back of your or the passengers seat in a extended cab and you will wish you had a 4 door.
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my 05 silverado with a 5.3 did fine pulling my 5k lb blazer up north. I noticed a few people saying not to get a 5.3. It all depends on the years. My friend had a 99 silverado with the 5.3 and it sucked pulling my blazer. The newer 5.3s are much better. I think the changeover year was 2003 but im not positive. The nice thing about the 5.3 is the get decent millage unloaded. Im averaging 17 on the highway. The 6.0 might pull better but it gets worse gas millage unloaded. Not sure if it will be a dd at all but the 6.0s get around 12mpg. I would highly recommend a silverado with a 5.3 as long as its the newer one 03ish +.
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Excursions, what plagues them?
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the 6.0s get around 12mpg.
Maybe unloaded going down hill on the hwy. LOL. I have 3 buddy that have ex cab short bed 2500HD with the 6.0. (one 01, one 05 and one 06. Maybe the newer body style is better now). They are happy when they get 10MPG in the city.
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Rust and high price for diesel ones.

Decent gassers can be had for 3-5 grand. Buy one, visit fordcummins.com, get a 12 valve cummins, and voila....less than $10,000 later you have a sweet rig....with some sweat equity.
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BTW, 94-02 extended cab dodges have a lot more back seat space than chevys or fords.

94-98 has no extra doors, 99-02 does. Back seat room is same, but 99-02 rear windows are much smaller, making them claustriphobic to many, and 99-02 doors are famous for rust and rattling.

In those era trucks, 94-early 98 come with 12v cummins, and decent ones can be had for $5,000-$8,000 all day.

I drive a dodge cummins and love it, but the bodies are very rust prone, and many trim pieces are crap (and not available)
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Old April 10th, 2012, 09:26 AM   #53
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I tow my fullsize chevy trucks like my k5 my k20 and my 88 suburban all with my dads 97 suburban with the tried and true 5.7 350 and 4l60e it tows them like a dream and not bad on mileage. if you are looking to only run 1500 miles a year dont spend your money on a newer truck that will rot just sitting get a 96-98 suburban or crew cab find one with a 350 and run it to the ground my dads truck has 150000 on it and all we do with it is tow we tow a 35 foot camper, two boats stacked ontop of eachother with 1500lbs of gear to canada 2000-2500 miles away and we tow my trucks none of which we have ever heard a hick up from tranny or the motor we did however have a break booster go out our last trip to canada but we could still stop just had stiff brakes
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Find a early 2000's 1500HD with the 6.0. You will be fine with that. I tow my quads and our enclosed trailer (about 6000 lbs total) with my 2001 silverado with the 5.3 and it doesnt squat or struggle. Its an extended cab but it has a lot of room in the back. 5 of us took a road trip and we were all comfortable
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http://autos.aol.com/used-detail--50...o+1500HD-2002/

This is perfect for you!!!
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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #56
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I have a 97 K1500 suburban and a 97 K1500 extended cab pickup. Both with the 350 (5.7).

The Truck has 3.42's and the sub has 3.73's. I have a 16 foot trailer with brakes on both axles. Both of these vehicles tow my jeep great. But, the furthest I go is Attica and Drummond. I keep both in 3 not OD and my milage is 12ish when towing.

The OBS GM trucks with the vortec 5.7 can be had for 4-6K.

Good luck!
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Power and MPG is much less important than getting the proper trailer set up.

Going up-hill might be slow, and hurt your MPG....but does it control in shit conditions. Trailer brakes, stabilizer, and things you want when you leave the flat-lands beyond Ohio.

My Commander has short WB, 4.7 V8 and gets 12 MPG with TJ on way heavy trailer with A/C on during flat lands. Being able to stop and control that short WB is worth what I might lose in MPG or having to stay in right lane going up hill.
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About the car seat, we used to use a 1996 V10 dodge ext cab, yes, you cold get a car seat in the back, but not great. We usually put the carseat in the center of the front bench, and put the dogs and gear in the back seat.

That V10 never had any issues pulling the toyota & trailer up Jellico and any of the other hills in TN and KY. Made the trip with friend with a 99 cummins with light mods, we both held 70mph fine in the hills and fuel costs were almost the same. I got 9.5-10, he got 13, but diesel was 30% more at that time.

If you are pulling hills with all of your travels, then I'd not worry about mileage, and get an 8.1 since you seem to be a chevy guy. The Dodge V10 and Ford V10 will do fine also. I don't like the earliest GM 6.0s, those I knew with them weren't really impressed.

I think its hit or miss with old vehicles up here in the rust belt. Anything 10+ years old can really start being an issue. Thats why I got rid of the dodge. Body rust is one thing.
I had fuel lines rusting. I had 2 brakes lines blow due to rust, one in a panic stop with a loaded trailer. I had the shift linkage rust and break. I had the vacuum lines to the front axle rust out, etc, etc, etc.

I tow with a new F150 now, it tows basically just as well as the V10 did. Power wise, the F150 is better empty, and about the same loaded, brakes and handling is better, loaded and unloaded in the half ton, and it fits all 3 of my kids and 3 dogs in the back seat with 3 car seats.

So if you aren't pulling big hills on a regular basis, I see no issue with a 1/2 ton, if it works for you better the other 350 days a year.
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First, second kid will be here in less than three months.

Ended up with a '04 Yukon XL Denali with a 175,000 miles for $9000. The space and features pretty much sold us on it and the heated bucket warmers sold it to the wifey. 6.0L seems to have some pretty good pep with the 3.73s.

Now it is time to find a trailer.
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First, second kid will be here in less than three months.

Ended up with a '04 Yukon XL Denali with a 175,000 miles for $9000. The space and features pretty much sold us on it and the heated bucket warmers sold it to the wifey. 6.0L seems to have some pretty good pep with the 3.73s.

Now it is time to find a trailer.
I'm considering same thing. Wife wants a bigger suv, I want to make sure it can tow. I was looking at the exact same setup on CL last night! I usually tow with my parents Yukon with 3.73 and tow package, down in KY and TN I have to keep it about 55 going up hills, but otherwise I leave the cruise on at 65. The 6.0 seems like a nice choice.
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