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Old January 13th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #1
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Unhappy 99 chevy tracker no spark no fuel at plug

First I want to apologize for the lengthy post. My son has a 99 chevy tracker with the small 4cyl (not the 2.0) and a manual transmission that we picked up last spring. It doesn't get driven much as he's not yet 16. It was last run 3-4 weeks ago. It was run VERY low on fuel before it sat (why he sat it). *yes, he now knows the dangers in this even if it's not the issue* Put dry gas in, some fresh fuel and tried to start. Had to jump start and couldn't get to fire. Pushed into garage and let sit with heat all day and charger on. Still won't fire. Turns over well. Plug appears perfectly dry AND doesn't seem to be getting spark (testing only with holding out of pocket and grounding, not with a fancy test). Both going bad at once? It has 2 coil on plug systems, one was fresh when we bought it as previous owner (friend) fixed a misfire. I was thinking fuel delivery for dry plug BUT loosening the banjo bolt and turning key pumps fuel out at bolt (on fuel rail as this engine doesn't to best of my knowledge have the schraeter valve). SOOOO... I'm planning on picking up a NOID light tomorrow if I can find one to test injectors. But I believe both spark and fuel delivery at injectors has been electrically cut off. I don't want to throw parts at this as he simply can't afford to waste $ (and neither can I). Anyone have any ideas?
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Start with the noid light or just use a test light to see if the injectors are firing.

Checked all fuses?

Battery fully charged?
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Old January 13th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #3
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Battery is now fully charged. Checked fuses but it doesn't have the typical fuse panel. It's a small bank nearly impossible to get to with my fat arse. But yeah, look good.
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Any evidence of mice?
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was in airbox below filter. Nothing elsewhere. What are you thinking?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 06:18 AM   #6
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was in airbox below filter. Nothing elsewhere. What are you thinking?
They like to chew shit like wires.


Could be computer though.

I know you said no spark but did you try starting fluid?

Should also check fuel pressure.
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Im not sure if the newer trackers have problems with ecms like the older ones, but the symptoms sound the same.
We put a 1993 tracker motor in my freinds samurai. It ran great for a few months, then started missing and had no power. Finally it would not start at all.
Suspected no fuel, there was no spark.
We put a new coil, dist pick up, and the ignitor box that bolts onto the coil bracket. We had all these parts in stock, but nothing changed.
We grabbed a new used ecm from a freinds tracker and it fired right up and runs better then ever. After a littlle research it seems like a common problem with trackers.
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it might help if you tell us exactly what motor you have Is it a 1.6 16 v ?I think thats the other option does it show any codes ? I would check the fuses there are fuses under the dr side dash & under the hood by the battery then I would make sure the fuel pump is running and fuel is getting to the inectors theres athreaded plug on the fuel rail right in ft of the motor if its removed & the pump is working gas will come out when its removed if thats all good check for spark you dont need a fancy tester an old spark plug thats good will do make sure its grounded good & plugged into the plug wire I would think if the ecm is operating the fuel pump its probably not the issue
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As stated in op there is fuel at the rail. Verified with banjo bolt. No codes. Yes 1.6.
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One of our guys had the same problem. I think the spark plug coils were the issue in his case. Might need to replace the other old one. Have fun!,
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ok update. No spark still, and no fuel being injected. Tested the wires to the cam pos sensor and they were getting juice as internet said it should. So... I replaced the cam pos sensor. No change. no fuses blown. Everything I research says this should have been the problem. ??????????? Crank pos sensor?
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The issue with the older tracker/sidekicks and fuel injected samurais is internal to the ECU. when the mfg built the ECU's they used electrolytic capacitors on the circuit board. Over time these caps will leak an oil like substance and it will eat the traces on the pc board. haven't heard of that being an issue on the 99+ trackers but it wouldnt surprise me.

When this would happen it would knock out either the fuel injector or the pump circuit. but i have seen them knock out the ignition circuit too

best bet would be to try another ECU and see what you get. then its either junkyard or go over on zuwharrie.com. there used to be someone over there that repaired them. new last i checked were over $600.
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guess i should have read more..... if its not the 2.0 then its a 1.6 16v. could very well be an ECU...
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Any chance the jumper cables wires where crossed when it you tried jump start it?
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