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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:36 AM   #1
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Laymans guide to gun laws?

I've been thinking recently i want to get into the firearms world, get my cpl and take possession of my fathers pistols that my uncle currently has. I keep searching for a basic run down of do's and don'ts so to say and all i come up with is a bunch of legal jargon i can't cut through. So does anyone know where i can find a basic list?

example. When transporting a gun it must be unloaded in a case not accessible to passengers. something along those lines would be great.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #2
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Ride around with it on your lap. Perfectly legal.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 11:14 AM   #3
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It would be a lot easier for you to come up with a list of questions that you have concerning gun ownership for us to answer.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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Try MRGO (Michigan responsible gun owners) website.You can find allthe info you seek therebut basically if you have a CPL you can carry on you in your vehicle and if stopped yu must inform the officers you have a CPL and that you're carrying if you in fact are. If you don't have a CPL you cannot carry in your vehicle and it is supposed to be in the trunk in a case. If in a truck or vehicle that does not have a trunk it is supposed to be in the back in a case and out of easy reach. The site has many links to the MSP and has legal advice from lawyers as well. You really need to know your rights as alot of the law enforcement officers don't know thelaws very well it's sad but true.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #5
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http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf

This is related to open carry but answers your questions about transport.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 08:16 AM   #6
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http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf

This is related to open carry but answers your questions about transport.
thats the kind of info i was looking for. mostly written in plain english and covers a variety of situations.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 03:42 PM   #7
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heres a question i can't find an answer to. If you are a cpl holder and open carry a firearm can it be loaded or must it be empty?
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Old February 17th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #8
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Why on gods green earth would you carry an empty pistol.


If you can legally OC, you can legally have one in the chamber, CPL or not.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #9
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heres a question i can't find an answer to. If you are a cpl holder and open carry a firearm can it be loaded or must it be empty?
What good is an unloaded firearm?
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Old February 17th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #10
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i wasn't sure if there was a law saying the ammo must be separate from the firearm such as it applies to transporting in a vehicle. And that's why i asked the question.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 03:55 PM   #11
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i wasn't sure if there was a law saying the ammo must be separate from the firearm such as it applies to transporting in a vehicle. And that's why i asked the question.
That gets more sticky.... you cannot OC in a vehicle in MI. If you are transporting without a CPL it must be unloaded. OC kicks in when you are out of the vehicle.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 03:56 PM   #12
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I've been thinking recently i want to get into the firearms world, get my cpl and take possession of my fathers pistols that my uncle currently has. I keep searching for a basic run down of do's and don'ts so to say and all i come up with is a bunch of legal jargon i can't cut through. So does anyone know where i can find a basic list?

example. When transporting a gun it must be unloaded in a case not accessible to passengers. something along those lines would be great.
You can do what ever you want when you have a gun. I mean who is going to stop you, you have a gun.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #13
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I honestly think you should make an effort to understand the 'legalese', or have the number of a good lawyer handy. FWIW, having the number of a good lawyer is a good idea anyway.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #14
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I like to carry without one in the chamber. It's safer that way
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Old February 17th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #15
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I honestly think you should make an effort to understand the 'legalese', or have the number of a good lawyer handy. FWIW, having the number of a good lawyer is a good idea anyway.
Agreed that's why I said he really needs to know the laws cause you don't stand much of a chance if your counting on Johnny law to be fair or to actually know the laws they are paid to enforce. They try to bully you if you don't know what rights you do have.
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