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Old February 14th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #1
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Michigan gun manufacturers?

A gun bill that is being worked on in Michigan has something in it that says "A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Michigan and that remains within the borders of Michigan is not subject to federal law or federal regulation". Are there even any gun or ammo manufacturers in the state of Michigan at all, or is this a trick that will bite us all in the ass?
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Old February 14th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #2
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #3
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Are fully automatics illegal according to the state of mi?
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:27 PM   #4
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Are fully automatics illegal according to the state of mi?
They are legal just very expensive due to all the paperwork bs.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 07:36 PM   #5
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IDK, it seems like they are trying to pull a fast one on us, resulting in gun control that they hope no one figures out. Think about it: No major firearm manufacturers in Michigan, only small, custom builders; instead of cheaper, mass produced firearms from large companies, only custom built weapons from the custom builders; high dollar custom builds = most people not being able to buy new firearms. Kind of the same way of thinking with the super high taxes on ammo that have been proposed: make it too expensive for most people to be able to buy.

I don't think the "Made In Michigan" provision helps us at all.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:08 PM   #6
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IDK, it seems like they are trying to pull a fast one on us, resulting in gun control that they hope no one figures out. Think about it: No major firearm manufacturers in Michigan, only small, custom builders; instead of cheaper, mass produced firearms from large companies, only custom built weapons from the custom builders; high dollar custom builds = most people not being able to buy new firearms. Kind of the same way of thinking with the super high taxes on ammo that have been proposed: make it too expensive for most people to be able to buy.

I don't think the "Made In Michigan" provision helps us at all.
It would seem to allow the use of 3D printers to make gun parts privately.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #7
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It would seem to allow the use of 3D printers to make gun parts privately.
Yeah, because everybody can just do that.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:32 PM   #8
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Yeah, because everybody can just do that.
Yes, you can. For less than the current price of an AR-15, you can buy the printer, computer, raw material, and start printing receivers.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #9
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IDK, it seems like they are trying to pull a fast one on us, resulting in gun control that they hope no one figures out. Think about it: No major firearm manufacturers in Michigan, only small, custom builders; instead of cheaper, mass produced firearms from large companies, only custom built weapons from the custom builders; high dollar custom builds = most people not being able to buy new firearms. Kind of the same way of thinking with the super high taxes on ammo that have been proposed: make it too expensive for most people to be able to buy.

I don't think the "Made In Michigan" provision helps us at all.
It's not pulling a fast one. It's basically meant to be a "fuck you" to any Federal legislation that may get snuck through - basically, they're trying to start a State's Rights issue that would have to go to court.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #10
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It's not pulling a fast one. It's basically meant to be a "fuck you" to any Federal legislation that may get snuck through - basically, they're trying to start a State's Rights issue that would have to go to court.
That's right fukc them communist/socialist/fascist/neocentric/racebates

Their the worst kind.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:50 PM   #11
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90% of the firearm manufactures get their raw bar steel used to produce barrels, bolts, & recievers from Gerdau Steel in Jackson, MI
Wonder if that would be a draw to the gun companies to move here from NY, and out East?
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Old February 14th, 2013, 10:07 PM   #12
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Old February 15th, 2013, 09:34 AM   #13
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It would seem to allow the use of 3D printers to make gun parts privately.
What material do those print with?

Can I put a sticker on my gun that says "made in Michigan" and have it count?
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Old February 15th, 2013, 11:41 AM   #14
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90% of the firearm manufactures get their raw bar steel used to produce barrels, bolts, & recievers from Gerdau Steel in Jackson, MI
Wonder if that would be a draw to the gun companies to move here from NY, and out East?

That's what I'm thinking, they are giving displaced gun manufacturers a place to go which would also help our economy by bringing in jobs. At least that's my hope
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Old February 15th, 2013, 11:52 AM   #15
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I don't know why Snyder hasn't been all over this.
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Old February 18th, 2013, 10:43 AM   #16
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Think about this from a manufacturing point....they could open a small facility here..have a ar15 subassembly, lets say without a trigger, shipped to that facility, at this point it is not a firearm it is just a bunch of metal parts thrown together, then the trigger is installed here, now its a firearm, wallla the AR15 was manufactured here in MI....
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Old February 18th, 2013, 10:48 AM   #17
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Think about this from a manufacturing point....they could open a small facility here..have a ar15 subassembly, lets say without a trigger, shipped to that facility, at this point it is not a firearm it is just a bunch of metal parts thrown together, then the trigger is installed here, now its a firearm, wallla the AR15 was manufactured here in MI....
The lower receiver is legally the "firearm." It can be a completely stripped hunk of metal but according to the law it's a firearm.
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Old February 18th, 2013, 12:04 PM   #18
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If you jump through all the hoops you can get your own manufacturer license and build whatever you want for your own enjoyment.
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If you jump through all the hoops you can get your own manufacturer license and build whatever you want for your own enjoyment.
Including machine guns and artillery!
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Old February 18th, 2013, 08:31 PM   #20
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What material do those print with?

Can I put a sticker on my gun that says "made in Michigan" and have it count?
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