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Old February 6th, 2013, 05:49 PM   #1
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hello just seeing if anyone had a rough idea of what i have going on..just had gears done in my wrangler dana30 front, 44 rear, went from 373s to 456. didnt have to change carriers just the ring and pinion. every seems good until i put the jeep in 4 wheel drive and when it is the lock right locker wont disengage at all.. wether im in the gas or not. so its pushing all over the road binding up like i have a welded front end. the only way it unlocks is if i put it in 2wheel drive put it in reverse tap the gas and then its fine back in 2wheel unlocked. anyone have an idea? thanks for the help
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Old February 6th, 2013, 06:04 PM   #2
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Maybe they messed up the locker install?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #3
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Maybe they messed up the locker install?
This is what it sounds like to me. Maybe an issue with a spacer during the install. Did a shop install? If so, take it back and have them double check to be sure.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #4
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locker was in it before the gears where installed and it worked fine. he didnt have to change the carrier just the ring and pinion. so i dont think the locker was messed with.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #5
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if back lashing isnt done correctly could it cause the locker to think its under load and lock up? i had someone do it off here, i took it back today and still couldnt get it right.
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they would have had to remove and re-install the locker though, maybe the different size of gear is causing the locker to bind somewhere? of like also said maybe a missed spring or shim put in wrong.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:08 PM   #7
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the locker was never taken apart or pulled out of the carrier.. from what i was watching he just had to change the ring gear and pinion gear along with the new bearings and stuff that come with the kit.
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the locker was never taken apart or pulled out of the carrier.. from what i was watching he just had to change the ring gear and pinion gear along with the new bearings and stuff that come with the kit.
not to sound like a broken record, but it does sound like backlash.

did they happen to re-use the crush sleeve? Did they check the backlash/tooth engagement/shim depth behind any new bearings?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:40 PM   #9
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The backlash would make sense. Pop your diff cover and throw an indicator on it and just check. Might end up saving your gear set.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 06:29 PM   #10
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the locker was never taken apart or pulled out of the carrier.. from what i was watching he just had to change the ring gear and pinion gear along with the new bearings and stuff that come with the kit.
Please explain how they changed the pinion or ring gear without removing the carrier and/or locker ????
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Please explain how they changed the pinion or ring gear without removing the carrier and/or locker ????
Dana 30 uses 2 diferent size carriers. He is saying he kept the carrier he had when he took it in and seeing as its a lunchbox locker the shop didnt have to touch it to do the gear swap.

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Old February 7th, 2013, 06:47 PM   #12
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Please explain how they changed the pinion or ring gear without removing the carrier and/or locker ????
Dana 30 is a FF. Just need to pull the shafts out, unbolt the carrier straps, and the carrier falls right out. All you have to do is swap ring gears.
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Dana 30 is a FF. Just need to pull the shafts out, unbolt the carrier straps, and the carrier falls right out. All you have to do is swap ring gears.
I have to doubt that they neglected to swap the pinion, as your comment implies.
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I have to doubt that they neglected to swap the pinion, as your comment implies.
My comment implies that you don't need to pull the locker to change a ring gear (in OPs case) in a D30 unless you are changing carriers.
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My comment implies that you don't need to pull the locker to change a ring gear (in OPs case) in a D30 unless you are changing carriers.
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they would have had to remove and re-install the locker though, maybe the different size of gear is causing the locker to bind somewhere? of like also said maybe a missed spring or shim put in wrong.
You, I will smack for this comment

Check your tire pressures both left and right and front and rear.
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Do the gears match? Both front and rear are 4.56 or whatever you had put in? Jack it up and double check by turning driveshaft and counting rotations.

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did you take your old ring and pinion back or did the person keep them?
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Did you ever figure this out?

What size tires?

It's not backlash.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 06:48 AM   #20
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Do the gears match? Both front and rear are 4.56 or whatever you had put in? Jack it up and double check by turning driveshaft and counting rotations.

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