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Old February 5th, 2013, 12:01 PM   #21
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Not confirmed but multiple walmarts have told me now that there is talk of Walmart no longer selling ammo.

They are the nations largest purchaser (behind the government) of ammo, I would be surprised if they would stop selling it, based on how much revenue it currently brings in for them.
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So out of curiosity if you all do not buy things from "anti-gun" businesses what brand of car is in your futures? As far as I know there isn't any carrying allowed at any of the big three plants? So doesn't that make them all anti gun?
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So out of curiosity if you all do not buy things from "anti-gun" businesses what brand of car is in your futures? As far as I know there isn't any carrying allowed at any of the big three plants? So doesn't that make them all anti gun?
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So out of curiosity if you all do not buy things from "anti-gun" businesses what brand of car is in your futures? As far as I know there isn't any carrying allowed at any of the big three plants? So doesn't that make them all anti gun?
But it is legal to carry a gun in the dealerships, unless posted otherwise, then you could go to a different dealership.

BTW I am not allowed to carry at my place of employment but that does not mean i am going to quit, or look for a different job. Sometimes you have to abide by the rules.
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But it is legal to carry a gun in the dealerships, unless posted otherwise, then you could go to a different dealership.

BTW I am not allowed to carry at my place of employment but that does not mean i am going to quit, or look for a different job. Sometimes you have to abide by the rules.
I will agree with this. I meant businesses that are either anti carrying and are not covered in the current law or businesses supporting anti gun legislation. By carrying I am talking about concealed carry not strapping an AR 15 strapped to their back walking in the business.
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I *believe* that this is because more than 50% of their sales come from alcohol.
I've been told by an officer here at work that Bdubs is ok, because it's not considered an actual bar but restaurant. I wouldn't carry there just because there could a lot of arguments either way
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Bank of America is anti second amendment. They refuse to do any business with anyone who manufactures or purchases firearms or accessories. Buffalo Wild Wings and also Graybar Electrical are anti carry.
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I saw that shit on Facebook
They serve alcohol to be consumed on premise by the glass...last I knew thats a no go right there.

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But it is legal to carry a gun in the dealerships, unless posted otherwise, then you could go to a different dealership.

BTW I am not allowed to carry at my place of employment but that does not mean i am going to quit, or look for a different job. Sometimes you have to abide by the rules.
So its ok to buy a product made by a anti gun company as long as you buy it from a pro gun store? Example, it's ok to buy a pair of Levis at walmart but not at Target? Just to clarify I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I truly am interested in what the thought process is on this.
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Read up on the rules, thats not their primary source of income so it doesnt apply.
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I will agree with this. I meant businesses that are either anti carrying and are not covered in the current law or businesses supporting anti gun legislation. By carrying I am talking about concealed carry not strapping an AR 15 strapped to their back walking in the business.
We had an AR, a scout rifle, 3 AK's, and assorted handguns at work one day.

When the owner's nickname is 'Gunner', you can expect a show and tell day now and then.
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B-dubs corporate policy is no firearms in their restaurants. All of the Michigan restaurants are owned by 1 person, and he is pro-gun and is ignoring that corporate policy, and won't put the no-firearms signs in his locations. So with that one, you can either boycott the corporation for their policy, or patronize the MI locations to support the owner who is standing up against the corporate rule.
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So its ok to buy a product made by a anti gun company as long as you buy it from a pro gun store? Example, it's ok to buy a pair of Levis at walmart but not at Target? Just to clarify I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I truly am interested in what the thought process is on this.
It is hard to get almost anything that is not attached to a political issue. Levi should not have anything to say about guns, Red Wing Boots should not be tied to a petition to close down a ORV area, the UAW should not tell someone how to vote. If i can remove one store/product/person from the chain that stands against something I believe in I feel a little better about my purchase. It is a battle of the lesser of evils anymore.

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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #34
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I do have to laugh Cody.

I just interviewed at Lacks. In the research I did, I found out the owner attached a letter to the company bonuses telling them why they should not vote for Obama.

As far as asking whether or not to give business based on someone's actions:

- I try to support local businesses
- I try to deal with good people when buying/selling second-hand.
- I have gotten "talked" to by several about the gun laws and other anti republican propaganda, but that doesn't stop me from doing business with them
- I see it like Ted said it in a recent interview "why don't you just leave gun owners the hell alone?"
- I don't get in people's faces about their life choices that I do not approve of. I don't give a shit if you are gay, do drugs, or otherwise. Just don't you dare try to shove my face in it.

So, if you have no reason to promote restrictions on gun laws, but try to shove it in people's faces, or promote otherwise, I probably would tend to not do business with you.

Similar to church, nobody is forcing you to go, or to buy or not buy a gun, just drop it and work on getting this damn country out of debt and whip the shit out of 95% of my generation because they are arrogant and incorrigible retards. That or get the fukc out of the country, we don't need you "occupying" anything or expecting hand me outs. Go squat in Mexico or something you dumb twats.

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Bank of America is anti second amendment. They refuse to do any business with anyone who manufactures or purchases firearms or accessories. Buffalo Wild Wings and also Graybar Electrical are anti carry.
Not entirely true. BOA is the company that Bass Pro uses for their credit cards, which %50 of the time, people sign up for one to buy a firearm.
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I do have to laugh Cody.

I just interviewed at Lacks. In the research I did, I found out the owner attached a letter to the company bonuses telling them why they should not vote for Obama.

As far as asking whether or not to give business based on someone's actions:

- I try to support local businesses
- I try to deal with good people when buying/selling second-hand.
- I have gotten "talked" to by several about the gun laws and other anti republican propaganda, but that doesn't stop me from doing business with them
- I see it like Ted said it in a recent interview "why don't you just leave gun owners the hell alone?"
- I don't get in people's faces about their life choices that I do not approve of. I don't give a shit if you are gay, do drugs, or otherwise. Just don't you dare try to shove my face in it.

So, if you have no reason to promote restrictions on gun laws, but try to shove it in people's faces, or promote otherwise, I probably would tend to not do business with you.

Similar to church, nobody is forcing you to go, or to buy or not buy a gun, just drop it and work on getting this damn country out of debt and whip the shit out of 95% of my generation because they are arrogant and incorrigible retards. That or get the fukc out of the country, we don't need you "occupying" anything or expecting hand me outs. Go squat in Mexico or something you dumb twats.

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Its a stores choice to allow or to not allow someone to carry. I respect that choice and do not stand out front with a sign protesting and pushing my views on others. I may send a letter inquiring as to why they feel this way and give them a chance to explain themselves. If they present a valid reason as to why their policies are this way (loss of customers, liability, insurance, things of this nature) I have no problem with that. If they chose to reply back that guns are evil and the devil that is their choice and I have the choice to not use their services.

I hate most of my generation but that is a topic for another debate.
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Its a stores choice to allow or to not allow someone to carry. I respect that choice and do not stand out front with a sign protesting and pushing my views on others. I may send a letter inquiring as to why they feel this way and give them a chance to explain themselves. If they present a valid reason as to why their policies are this way (loss of customers, liability, insurance, things of this nature) I have no problem with that. If they chose to reply back that guns are evil and the devil that is their choice and I have the choice to not use their services.

I hate most of my generation but that is a topic for another debate.
I don't stand out in front of them and protest too but I also would not give them my business if I was sure they had this policy. I for a fact know that groupon made some news announcement over it's decision to not do gun related sales and is now "reviewing" that policy. I have made my choice not to buy from them unless they bring back the range time sales. It is their choice not to sell those packages but it is my choice as a consumer not to support them with my business. This is the type of information I am looking for other people to provide knowedgeably.
I am not looking for the I saw a motivational picture on facebook but of first hand knowledge that their is a policy like the one groupon created.
This is America and they have the freedom to sell or not sell whatever they want. I have the right to spend my money left over after government rapeage where I want.
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I don't stand out in front of them and protest too but I also would not give them my business if I was sure they had this policy. I for a fact know that groupon made some news announcement over it's decision to not do gun related sales and is now "reviewing" that policy. I have made my choice not to buy from them unless they bring back the range time sales. It is their choice not to sell those packages but it is my choice as a consumer not to support them with my business. This is the type of information I am looking for other people to provide knowedgeably.
I am not looking for the I saw a motivational picture on facebook but of first hand knowledge that their is a policy like the one groupon created.
This is America and they have the freedom to sell or not sell whatever they want. I have the right to spend my money left over after government rapeage where I want.
I think we have a misunderstanding. I am not saying don't question them or chose to not support them; rather the opposite, question them and stand firm if you beliefs and values. What you have done with Groupon is exactly what I think people should do. They cut out anything gun related, you sent a letter asking for an explanation and providing them with you feedback about the policy, they provided a response that was not a flat out "no". Now we have to wait and see what they decide to do. This is what I want to see happen, the very thing you just did. Someone to research "claims" and provide facts for others to base opinion off from. I too do not trust the Facebook stories or pictures either. I have no confirmed places to add to the list so I have not made a suggestion for a company to add.

My mom will forward me Groupon deals every now and then. I have bought a few packages but since you made this post I have asked her to stop sending them to me and to stop using them herself.
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I think we have a misunderstanding. I am not saying don't question them or chose to not support them; rather the opposite, question them and stand firm if you beliefs and values. What you have done with Groupon is exactly what I think people should do. They cut out anything gun related, you sent a letter asking for an explanation and providing them with you feedback about the policy, they provided a response that was not a flat out "no". Now we have to wait and see what they decide to do. This is what I want to see happen, the very thing you just did. Someone to research "claims" and provide facts for others to base opinion off from. I too do not trust the Facebook stories or pictures either. I have no confirmed places to add to the list so I have not made a suggestion for a company to add.

My mom will forward me Groupon deals every now and then. I have bought a few packages but since you made this post I have asked her to stop sending them to me and to stop using them herself.
I still get their ads and when I see something I would have bought I remind them of my inquiry and say I would have bought this if you hadn't announced your policy review and tried to be political instead of business oriented. I think it's important for them to see the direct revenue loss especially from a high volume consumer like myself. How many hippies are going to buy more because they made this announcement about policy??? I doubt they are adding more business than they are losing so I am sure to remind them what they are losing from me.
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