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Old January 18th, 2013, 07:34 PM   #41
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I am surprised they can still plug a tire, we do absolutely no tire plugs at work. Unless its a lawnmower tire.


Patch from the inside all the way..
plug, patch, repair, I don't know which method they were going to "not" use

I plugged it. holding air so far.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 09:33 PM   #42
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When I recently bought a set of used MT/R's off a member here I took them to discount to have them mounted/balanced. Discount refused to touch them because they were 10 years old. Took them to Belle Tire and they hooked me up. Not dealing with Discount any more.
good luck when that old dried out tire fails and you hurt someone.

some people don't give a crap about safety, it's a shame
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Old January 18th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #43
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good luck when that old dried out tire fails and you hurt someone.

some people don't give a crap about safety, it's a shame
FYI, the tires are in perfect condition, not a sign of dryrot or I would not have bought them.
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it's a know proven fact that they are dried out at that age whether you can see it or not. that's why almost all tire companies and tire manufacturers will not service tires at 10 years or older. it's a safety and integrity issue.

Replace Old Tires Even if There is Tread Remaining
Vehicle Manufacturers Recommend Replacement at 6 Years
Tire Manufacturers' Warranties Expire at 6 Years
Tire Manufacturers Recommend Replacement at 10 Years
Industry Experts Recommend Replacement at 10 Years

Certain chemicals added to new tires allow rubber to be soft and flexible. Over time and as air migrates through the tire, the chemical's effectiveness weakens, allowing rubber to become more brittle and lose strength.

Consumer Advisory: Factors to Consider in the Life of Your Tires
The following elements each play an important part in your tire's safety. Throughout the life of the tires it is necessary to see how each of these plays a different role. Excludes trailer tires.

Up to 6 Years:
Visual tire inspections and monthly air pressure checks are recommended.

Tire Quality/Construction: Features and Benefits help to describe capabilities of tires during this period.
Service Conditions/Maintenance: Rotate tires every 6-8,000 miles, check air pressure monthly and check tire balance every 12-16,000 miles. Tire Manufacturers suggest most tires are out of service at 3-4 years based on wear.
Tire Wear/Condition: Less than new tread changes traction and stability capabilities in extreme weather conditions (such as: snow, ice, rain, dirt/mud).
Environmental Conditions: Exposure to heat and ultraviolet rays may cause structural changes in the tire not found in more moderate climates.
Tire DOT Number*: Tire age is not the major consideration during this portion of the tire's life.

6 to 10 Years:
Replacement is recommended.

Tire Quality/Construction: Are more valid concerns as some tires are designed to be nearing the end of their service life based on average consumer travel of 12-15,000 miles annually.
Service Conditions/Maintenance: Tires that have not been serviced or maintained properly are typically at the end of their service life.
Wear/Condition: Less tread reduces traction and stability in all weather conditions as well as propensity to punctures.
Environmental Conditions: Exposure to heat and ultraviolet rays causes ozone/weather cracking and structural changes.
Tire DOT Number*: Now, one of the important considerations as some vehicle manufacturers recommend replacement and tire manufacturer warranties expire.

More Than 10 Years:
No service on tires with a DOT beyond 10 years.

Tire Quality/Construction, Service Conditions/ Maintenance, Tire Wear/Condition, Environmental Conditions: Regardless of all of these conditions, tires reach the end of their life.
Tire DOT Number*: Tire age is the most important consideration during this portion of the tire life as tire manufacturers recommend replacement of any tires regardless of service, including spares.

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Old January 18th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #45
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it's a know proven fact that they are dried out at that age whether you can see it or not. that's why almost all tire companies and tire manufacturers will not service tires at 10 years or older. it's a safety and integrity issue.

Replace Old Tires Even if There is Tread Remaining
Vehicle Manufacturers Recommend Replacement at 6 Years
Tire Manufacturers' Warranties Expire at 6 Years
Tire Manufacturers Recommend Replacement at 10 Years
Industry Experts Recommend Replacement at 10 Years

Certain chemicals added to new tires allow rubber to be soft and flexible. Over time and as air migrates through the tire, the chemical's effectiveness weakens, allowing rubber to become more brittle and lose strength.

Consumer Advisory: Factors to Consider in the Life of Your Tires
The following elements each play an important part in your tire's safety. Throughout the life of the tires it is necessary to see how each of these plays a different role. Excludes trailer tires.

Up to 6 Years:
Visual tire inspections and monthly air pressure checks are recommended.

Tire Quality/Construction: Features and Benefits help to describe capabilities of tires during this period.
Service Conditions/Maintenance: Rotate tires every 6-8,000 miles, check air pressure monthly and check tire balance every 12-16,000 miles. Tire Manufacturers suggest most tires are out of service at 3-4 years based on wear.
Tire Wear/Condition: Less than new tread changes traction and stability capabilities in extreme weather conditions (such as: snow, ice, rain, dirt/mud).
Environmental Conditions: Exposure to heat and ultraviolet rays may cause structural changes in the tire not found in more moderate climates.
Tire DOT Number*: Tire age is not the major consideration during this portion of the tire's life.

6 to 10 Years:
Replacement is recommended.

Tire Quality/Construction: Are more valid concerns as some tires are designed to be nearing the end of their service life based on average consumer travel of 12-15,000 miles annually.
Service Conditions/Maintenance: Tires that have not been serviced or maintained properly are typically at the end of their service life.
Wear/Condition: Less tread reduces traction and stability in all weather conditions as well as propensity to punctures.
Environmental Conditions: Exposure to heat and ultraviolet rays causes ozone/weather cracking and structural changes.
Tire DOT Number*: Now, one of the important considerations as some vehicle manufacturers recommend replacement and tire manufacturer warranties expire.

More Than 10 Years:
No service on tires with a DOT beyond 10 years.

Tire Quality/Construction, Service Conditions/ Maintenance, Tire Wear/Condition, Environmental Conditions: Regardless of all of these conditions, tires reach the end of their life.
Tire DOT Number*: Tire age is the most important consideration during this portion of the tire life as tire manufacturers recommend replacement of any tires regardless of service, including spares.
seen that a hundred times. it's all hogwash aimed at selling more tires.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 10:28 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by 1TFROT View Post
it's a know proven fact that they are dried out at that age whether you can see it or not. that's why almost all tire companies and tire manufacturers will not service tires at 10 years or older. it's a safety and integrity issue.

Replace Old Tires Even if There is Tread Remaining
Vehicle Manufacturers Recommend Replacement at 6 Years
Tire Manufacturers' Warranties Expire at 6 Years
Tire Manufacturers Recommend Replacement at 10 Years
Industry Experts Recommend Replacement at 10 Years

Certain chemicals added to new tires allow rubber to be soft and flexible. Over time and as air migrates through the tire, the chemical's effectiveness weakens, allowing rubber to become more brittle and lose strength.

Consumer Advisory: Factors to Consider in the Life of Your Tires
The following elements each play an important part in your tire's safety. Throughout the life of the tires it is necessary to see how each of these plays a different role. Excludes trailer tires.

Up to 6 Years:
Visual tire inspections and monthly air pressure checks are recommended.

Tire Quality/Construction: Features and Benefits help to describe capabilities of tires during this period.
Service Conditions/Maintenance: Rotate tires every 6-8,000 miles, check air pressure monthly and check tire balance every 12-16,000 miles. Tire Manufacturers suggest most tires are out of service at 3-4 years based on wear.
Tire Wear/Condition: Less than new tread changes traction and stability capabilities in extreme weather conditions (such as: snow, ice, rain, dirt/mud).
Environmental Conditions: Exposure to heat and ultraviolet rays may cause structural changes in the tire not found in more moderate climates.
Tire DOT Number*: Tire age is not the major consideration during this portion of the tire's life.

6 to 10 Years:
Replacement is recommended.

Tire Quality/Construction: Are more valid concerns as some tires are designed to be nearing the end of their service life based on average consumer travel of 12-15,000 miles annually.
Service Conditions/Maintenance: Tires that have not been serviced or maintained properly are typically at the end of their service life.
Wear/Condition: Less tread reduces traction and stability in all weather conditions as well as propensity to punctures.
Environmental Conditions: Exposure to heat and ultraviolet rays causes ozone/weather cracking and structural changes.
Tire DOT Number*: Now, one of the important considerations as some vehicle manufacturers recommend replacement and tire manufacturer warranties expire.

More Than 10 Years:
No service on tires with a DOT beyond 10 years.

Tire Quality/Construction, Service Conditions/ Maintenance, Tire Wear/Condition, Environmental Conditions: Regardless of all of these conditions, tires reach the end of their life.
Tire DOT Number*: Tire age is the most important consideration during this portion of the tire life as tire manufacturers recommend replacement of any tires regardless of service, including spares.

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Old January 18th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #47
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That said, the nail was on the edge of dreezy's diagram between repair and don't repair, he put the hard sale on for me to get new tires. I pointed directly to the wear bars and said I still have about 5-10k out of these tires, I fully intend on purchasing some new rims and tires in a few weeks when I get my tax returns and install my leveling kit.

If he hadn't put the full court press on I probably would have considered ordering my tires from them for fixing the flat for free......so there's that side of the coin too.
I sold a lot of tires using the "its fixed but come back and see me when you have some loot for new shoes. Here's a price for a comparable tire, if you can beat it else where, ask for me and I will give you the best deal I can."

Some others seemed to think the "buy tires now or die approach" worked better.

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When I recently bought a set of used MT/R's off a member here I took them to discount to have them mounted/balanced. Discount refused to touch them because they were 10 years old. Took them to Belle Tire and they hooked me up. Not dealing with Discount any more.
Something happened while I worked there to a kid who inflated an old tire and ended up a vegetable. It was close to the time when I quit working there. The story I heard was the manager told him to tube an old dry rotted tire and it blew up in his face and he was from then on a vegetable. Last I was there, it was a max of 10psi on the changer and every tire got fully inflated in a cage. I remember airing up 35 series tires to 110psi on the changer.

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Old January 18th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #48
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just had one done on a corner a couple weeks ago. The farm store here took it off and put a plug patch in.


IMHO its the only way to go. I usually hot patch it too with a piece of Aluminum and a torch. I don't need to, but its peace of mind.
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Old January 19th, 2013, 12:20 AM   #49
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Interesting video dreezy. I recently got nee tires at Discount and I was in the garage talking to one of the employees and noticed those cages. Didn't know what they were and forgot to ask. I believe they save lives after seeing that video.
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