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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:55 AM   #41
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How are you guys heating your hot tubs? Is it a kit you buy? Or something you are making up on your own? I plan on buying a Central Boiler this summer. I had thought of doing the hot tub. But haven't seen anybody doing it.
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Central has an EPA phase 2 gasification furnace available that can be linked up to your smart phone.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:01 AM   #43
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How are you guys heating your hot tubs? Is it a kit you buy? Or something you are making up on your own? I plan on buying a Central Boiler this summer. I had thought of doing the hot tub. But haven't seen anybody doing it.
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Was going to do one of these for my home but decided to go with geothermal so I don't have to go out in bad weather to fill with wood. What do you guys do when you go away on weekends or long vacations? How do you keep a constant heat in the house?

Have a bunch of down trees here if people are interested in taking a look in the spring as well.
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Was going to do one of these for my home but decided to go with geothermal so I don't have to go out in bad weather to fill with wood. What do you guys do when you go away on weekends or long vacations? How do you keep a constant heat in the house?

Have a bunch of down trees here if people are interested in taking a look in the spring as well.
Most people run two stats in there house ins for the burner an one for thee furnace. You keep the furnace stat around 60 and the burner stat At the temp you want the house. When the burner runs out or fire/hot water the furnace stat kicks in and you start burning propane. And the hot air going through the heat exchanger for the wood burner keeps the water from freezing in the burner, because the pump is always running.
I've lived in my house for 4 years now. Had the burner from day 1, I've never looked at the amount of propane in my tank, and I'm going to call and have it removed this year. I'm sick of looking at it.
Ive never used my furnace, me and my uncial live a mile apart. When he goes out of town I fill his and him the same for me.
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Was going to do one of these for my home but decided to go with geothermal so I don't have to go out in bad weather to fill with wood. What do you guys do when you go away on weekends or long vacations? How do you keep a constant heat in the house?

Have a bunch of down trees here if people are interested in taking a look in the spring as well.
I load it full and turn the t-stat in the house down and the boiler temp down. With that being said I've come home after a week, and still had coals in the burn box. I've also come home to an empty burn box. But like gear drive said, my reg furnace takes over if the wood burner goes out
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is there enough cost savings in this to justify it for a house on natural gas?

i am liking the idea of endless hot water..... and the thought of a hot tub not costing 60-80 bucks a month to run.....
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is there enough cost savings in this to justify it for a house on natural gas?

i am liking the idea of endless hot water..... and the thought of a hot tub not costing 60-80 bucks a month to run.....
my thought is barely.

I am saving $75+ per month as i stated with an indoor woodburner/stove. I am on natural gas, I don;t get long enough burn times to go furnace free over night, so it kicks on. I estimate a few extra dollars in savings if I could do so, plus a few bucks savings on the water heater.

My highest heating bill last winter was $265, compared to my typical monthly electrical bill of $35.

I figure the MAX savings per year I will attain is Oct-April $700/year.

That takes a long time to pay off, but everyone's situation is different.

If I had propane or electric heat I imagine I could save a lot more than that.
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I had to buy my propane tank because I don't burn enough for the company to give me one. With that being said I burn 4x the propane in the summer than I do in the winter. The only thing I have on propane is the stove and hot water heater. So cost wise its cheaper and easier to burn propane in the summer than wood. I have 330gal tank that I fill about every two to three years.
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My propane co. charges me $60/yr for tank rental. Haven't bought propane in 10 years. I have my gas grille hooked up to it and run the furnace minimally.
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How are you guys heating your hot tubs? Is it a kit you buy? Or something you are making up on your own? I plan on buying a Central Boiler this summer. I had thought of doing the hot tub. But haven't seen anybody doing it.
They sell everything you'll need. It's a water to water exchanger with 1 1/2 intake and discharge so you dont lose volume for the jets and a 3 way valve,aquta stat.

I use the same pump that feeds the house it runs hot water/furnace/hot tub then back to stove.

I had a problem with mine the safty for the hot tub shuts off @117*. The first time I ran it the tub shutdown. The water was too hot going to the tub,ended up putting in shut offs/tee to limit the boiler water going to the exchanger.

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My house is all electric. I pay around 200 give or take a mo in electric (house and shop) and that's it. No gas or propane bill. It's my way of sticking it to the gas man!
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We have a Hardy that is at least 15 yrs old. Not nearly as efficient as it once was or as the new ones. We burn roughly 10 pulp cords a year heating a 1700-1800sq house.
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I have 2000 sqft. of house to heat. I installed a small englander Woodstove and about 25' of the Menards Stainless wood stove pipe. I burn dead seasoned wood such as elm, ash, cherry, and a little Osage orange. I keep a stove top thermometer and burn at 500-700 deg. far. I do not have a probe in the flue so I cannot tell you what that temp would be. At the end of the season I clean the chimney and generally I do not get more than few cups of ash and creosote out of the chimney. It's always fairly clean.

If your having chimney fires your not doing it right. Check out Hearth.com and do some reading. My heating bills during the winter would get as high as $300.00 in the coldest months. Burning wood, my gas bill is around $30.00 per month. This is mainly the water heater and occasional furnace if I don't keep the wood stove going at night. I also enjoy cutting firewood and look forward to it. I have to say I have the best chainsaw in the world and I will gladly put it head to head with anything comparable. Dolmar 7900 is a very nice piece of equipment!!

This being said, I'm looking at fabricating a GARN style boiler to heat my home and future barn. My brother has built several boiler units, simple, around 240 gallons, water jacketed door, and he burns whatever he wants and achieves burn times of 24 hours plus. I think he has around $2400.00 total into his personal boiler and its been running for the last 3 years with no issue.

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I have 2000 sqft. of house to heat. I installed a small englander Woodstove and about 25' of the Menards Stainless wood stove pipe. I burn dead seasoned wood such as elm, ash, cherry, and a little Osage orange. I keep a stove top thermometer and burn at 500-700 deg. far. I do not have a probe in the flue so I cannot tell you what that temp would be. At the end of the season I clean the chimney and generally I do not get more than few cups of ash and creosote out of the chimney. It's always fairly clean.

If your having chimney fires your not doing it right. Check out Hearth.com and do some reading. My heating bills during the winter would get as high as $300.00 in the coldest months. Burning wood, my gas bill is around $30.00 per month. This is mainly the water heater and occasional furnace if I don't keep the wood stove going at night. I also enjoy cutting firewood and look forward to it. I have to say I have the best chainsaw in the world and I will gladly put it head to head with anything comparable. Dolmar 7900 is a very nice piece of equipment!!

This being said, I'm looking at fabricating a GARN style boiler to heat my home and future barn. My brother has built several boiler units, simple, around 240 gallons, water jacketed door, and he burns whatever he wants and achieves burn times of 24 hours plus. I think he has around $2400.00 total into his personal boiler and its been running for the last 3 years with no issue.
I can get 24 hour burn times too...except you burn a shit ton more wood that way, the more you load the less wood you use. A boiler unlike a BBQ likes fire not coals...you over load that stove and you end up with a massive pile of coals, which will not keep up with demand as well as fire
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If you really want to save $ by heating your house with wood, check out rocket mass home built style stoves. I will do one some day. Up to 10 times more efficient than these archaic monsters you guys are using.
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I have 2000 sqft. of house to heat. I installed a small englander Woodstove and about 25' of the Menards Stainless wood stove pipe. I burn dead seasoned wood such as elm, ash, cherry, and a little Osage orange. I keep a stove top thermometer and burn at 500-700 deg. far. I do not have a probe in the flue so I cannot tell you what that temp would be. At the end of the season I clean the chimney and generally I do not get more than few cups of ash and creosote out of the chimney. It's always fairly clean.

If your having chimney fires your not doing it right. Check out Hearth.com and do some reading. My heating bills during the winter would get as high as $300.00 in the coldest months. Burning wood, my gas bill is around $30.00 per month. This is mainly the water heater and occasional furnace if I don't keep the wood stove going at night. I also enjoy cutting firewood and look forward to it. I have to say I have the best chainsaw in the world and I will gladly put it head to head with anything comparable. Dolmar 7900 is a very nice piece of equipment!!

This being said, I'm looking at fabricating a GARN style boiler to heat my home and future barn. My brother has built several boiler units, simple, around 240 gallons, water jacketed door, and he burns whatever he wants and achieves burn times of 24 hours plus. I think he has around $2400.00 total into his personal boiler and its been running for the last 3 years with no issue.
1 chimney fire in 25 years and I'm doing it wrong? I have a Vermont Castings Vigilant and am very happy with it. I'm going to a OWF for many other reasons.
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My uncial has a wood master, not sure in size but its bigger than mine. He had a 3200 sq ft house he was heating. He moved to a 1400 sq ft house that is heavily insulated. He told me that 28hrs is the shortest burn he has had all winter so far. That's awesome!
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I am running the 5036. Installed it in 2006. I did most of the installation myself. I went with baseboard radiators instead of tying into my propane furnace. I love the baseboard heat as it keeps a more even heat in the house, not the ups and downs of the central system, no blower motor sound to put up with in the manufactured home.

I am out in the open so when it down below 0 Deg.'s and the wind is blowing hard some times the baseboard system can't keep up and my propane heat kicks on. This only happens maybe once or twice a year. I might not have put in enough radiators also, so that could be a cause of it not keeping up. Also with all the pex tubing and 1 6 foot radiator in the crawl space it stays really warm down there.

I buy my wood by the truck load, 20 full cord of all Oak for $1900. Lasts me about 2 years burning all year, just to heat my hot water in the summer. I have found that cutting the wood to about 18 inches and just loading the front half of the fire box is more efficient. I can load it at about 5 PM and only have to put a couple of logs on it in the morning about 10 AM to get through the day, then repeat.

Best investment I ever made. I was spending about $2400-$3000 a year on propane when it was $1.40 a gallon.

The only thing I can say about Central Boiler is that they are very picky about the 25 Year warranty. I have heard of them denying claims for burning wet wood and trash in the boiler.
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