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Old December 15th, 2012, 08:59 AM   #141
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Ok, well then it wouldnt make sense for me to rent a pickup either. I meant will they let me put one on?



So I can do it, but I'm responsible for it?
That's what I figured, but I mean would they even provide a hitch for a pickup?

Just wondering how to "cobble" a hitch onto a rented car without damaging it.... Especially a car....
Some trucks have a reciever hitch on them, if not then they all have a step bumper

Remove Plastic trim piece covering hole in bumper, install trailer ball, tow trailer, remove ball, reinstall plastic trim piece. Hardest part is the wiring if it doesn't already have a 4 or 7 pin

Seriously, are you really this parnoid/pussy. Just grab some sweet tea, a camo visor, columbia fishing shirt, those stupids short shorts that your boxers hang out the bottom, come down south get your crap and eat at chick-fil-a.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 09:11 AM   #142
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http://centralmich.craigslist.org/pts/3466749672.html here ya go.. lots of pretty good looking cj parts.. and they are all in michigan.. :)
cool!!

unfortunately I'm trying to get a cj tub, not a yj. also, the majority of the parst I need, he doesn't have. The parts he has that I need wont work. the axles are narrow track and the gas tank is a 15gal steel. I'll call and talk to him, but I don't think he has what I need.

I'm pretty sure I've seen that ad before. I think I ignored the ad the first time when I saw it was a yj tub. I've been all over craigslist.
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Some trucks have a reciever hitch on them, if not then they all have a step bumper

Remove Plastic trim piece covering hole in bumper, install trailer ball, tow trailer, remove ball, reinstall plastic trim piece. Hardest part is the wiring if it doesn't already have a 4 or 7 pin

Seriously, are you really this parnoid/pussy. Just grab some sweet tea, a camo visor, columbia fishing shirt, those stupids short shorts that your boxers hang out the bottom, come down south get your crap and eat at chick-fil-a.
Ok, so you wouldn't have me taking a rental CAR with a trailer? I know a truck wouldn't be hard to put a hitch in, I meant a car for better mpg. Isn't it dangerous towing on the bumper instead of a receiver?

Paranoid? not at all. For all this talk of how any truck I get would break down, I'm still the only one concerned in planning the logistics of the trip, including the truck. Meanwhile, the rest of you hurry and urge me on to make a quick and rash decision so you can laugh at me for it. I'm not taking off until I know what I'm doing, and even then it will be another week or two.

If the fact that I need to plan is too upsetting, feel free to not look at this thread until the first week of January.

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There's a reason why bumpers have holes in them. For light duty trailer hauling. Probably capable of twice what you want to haul
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There's a reason why bumpers have holes in them. For light duty trailer hauling. Probably capable of twice what you want to haul
ok, I've always thought they weren't very safe to be used for towing, but I'm thinking of heavier loads.

Is there a way I could get a hitch on a v6 car? Costs less a day to rent, and I'd get better mpg. It was suggested earlier that I get one, but now that I want to rent one, I'd need to know how to heck to put a hitch on there. The bumper wouldn't work, so I'd need a receiver..??

Are there any receivers long enough to reach out past the bumper from its mounting point behind it?
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you must be in high school.

Time is money, you could have rented a truck, drove down there, and installed the tub in the time you've spent on this thread.
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you must be in high school.

Time is money, you could have rented a truck, drove down there, and installed the tub in the time you've spent on this thread.
nope, I'm in college. I'm checking this thread in between my online work for studying for finals. I couldn't have driven down yet, because I'm not finished yet.

Time is money, you're right. That's why I don't want to waste my time getting down there and then find out I've got the wrong equipment. So I'm investing my time now so that my trip goes smoothly, though I'm not sure how helpful all this is. And luckily I haven't really spent a lot of time on this so far.

So, like I said, if you don't like it, check back in January. No need to keep replying about how much time you think I'm wasting; that's just a waste of your time writing it, and mine replying to it.
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Here ya go, strap the tub to the roof and the clip in the back

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alright, well it is a 1 piece front clip. Do you think that laying a fiberglass tub on its side and strapping it that way would damage the tub at all? Stress cracks or something like that?
I get the anti-trailer sentiment, but I was already going to be replacing its tires, repacking the bearings, and having a spare with me. Does that change your feeling on it at all?

My best looking options right now are: get a truck from enterprise and out the stuff in the bed or haul a trailer down, buy a truck and do the same, bus/train down there, and truck back.
OK I pulled a small trailer from Mi. to Ca. and back with no problems but I would still not to thrilled with doing it again. Especially if I could just get a truck and haul whatever in that. Personally I would not have any issue with hauling the tub on it side but that is something that you would have to decide on your own. I am not about to say ya do it and than you have a problem. If it were me I would still opt for buying/renting a full size truck. I just did a couple quick numbers and if you can get 20mpg with a truck it will cost about $400 to go 1000 miles at $4 a gal. Do a car/small truck at 27mpg going to cost about $296. So just for the difference in comfort I personally would go for the full size truck. Whats it going to cost $100 to have more room? Well worth nit to me.
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so you think a tub would fit on there without crushing the roof?
The front clip is definitely not going to fit INSIDE that car anywhere lol.

Why the double standards? That is, why is that car with its higher miles so much better than these trucks which are all more suited to the job:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/3474720773.html

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3450748433.html

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3477847973.html
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OK I pulled a small trailer from Mi. to Ca. and back with no problems but I would still not to thrilled with doing it again. Especially if I could just get a truck and haul whatever in that. Personally I would not have any issue with hauling the tub on it side but that is something that you would have to decide on your own. I am not about to say ya do it and than you have a problem. If it were me I would still opt for buying/renting a full size truck. I just did a couple quick numbers and if you can get 20mpg with a truck it will cost about $400 to go 1000 miles at $4 a gal. Do a car/small truck at 27mpg going to cost about $296. So just for the difference in comfort I personally would go for the full size truck. Whats it going to cost $100 to have more room? Well worth nit to me.
Yea ok that makes sense. I guess I'm just kind of cautious about hauling a fiberglass tub on its side with its weight on it for 700 miles.
Just got off the phone with enterprise, and they apparently don't even allow their pickups to tow trailers, no matter how light.

So unless I can drop a ball in the bumper, and make it look like I didn't by the time I return it, there really isn't any good way to tow a trailer.
If they don't let their trucks tow, there's no way they'll let their car do it.
But since I'm trying to figure out how to fit a hitch on the truck anyways, I might as well figure out how to fit one on the car too.

Yea, the trip is 1400 miles. I'd rent a dakota or colorado, because a full size one is another $20/day, they both supposedly have 8' beds, and I'm "not allowed" to tow anything with either of them, so I don't see much advantage to a full size, honestly.
Unless my math is off, the numbers you said would actually only be $200 to drive the truck 1k miles. Anyhow, she said the trucks get 18, but whatever. at 1400 miles, and 19mpg, i'm at ~$300 for gas. $200 to rent the truck, +$90 for my age fee. so $600.

With a car getting 25 mpg, it would cost me $225 for the whole trip, +$115 to rent it, +90 again, so about $460. Now I wonder if someone else can rent it for me, but I can drive it??? If I get pulled over, I think that would be bad.
So I'd end up saving about $140 over the course of the trip.

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So now I need to figure out if I could fit the tub in there safely, and if not, how to put a hitch on there in such a way that it wont be noticeable that I did when I return it.

And secondarily, I need to find out bed dimensions for a 2011 dakota/colorado.

Do you have any idea of the length of a tub? I know its supposedly about 61" wide, but I'm not sure about length.
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I will measure my tub later this afternoon so I can give you an exact width. On the mileage I was figureing 1000 miles one way. I did a mapquest and it shows 890 some miles one way from my house so I just figured 1000 miles to make it easier.
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I will measure my tub later this afternoon so I can give you an exact width. On the mileage I was figureing 1000 miles one way. I did a mapquest and it shows 890 some miles one way from my house so I just figured 1000 miles to make it easier.
ok perfect, thanks.
I had google mapped it from my zipcode to his city, and it gave me just over 700 miles, which is what I was going off of. He's also a bit north of the city, so I wouldn't be driving quite that far south.
It's all good though.
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I don't know how set you are on having a cj tub but a yj tub will fit on a cj fame and you can use a cj hood, fenders and grill. You will just have a swing out tailgate instead of a flip down. I could be wrong but I think the tub should only be 57" wide also.

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I don't know how set you are on having a cj tub but a yj tub will fit on a cj fame and you can use a cj hood, fenders and grill. You will just have a swing out tailgate instead of a flip down. I could be wrong but I think the tub should only be 57" wide also.

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yea, I know a yj could fit, thanks. I'm pretty set on a cj though. That way I don't have to cut a new fuel filler hole, change the rear body mount locations, and not have to worry about the dash duct holes that the yj doesn't have and the cj needs.

As much as I love the cj flip down tailgate, the fiberglass tubs don't usually come with that, so if I want one, I'll have to do it myself anyways. The yj steel ones would only have the advantage of a tailgate in place for me to have to convert. I'd have to still change everything else over, and that's assuming the steel is in good shape.
I definitely have tried to consider a yj tub though, thanks!
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Tub is 93" long and 59" wide.
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awesome, thanks a ton!

Well here is the 2011 dakota bed specs for crew cab vs extended. Though I don't think they actually have any extended cabs for rent.....
CARGO BOX DIMENSIONS
Extended Cab Crew Cab
Nominal Box Length, ft. 6.4 5.3
Length at Floor, Tailgate Closed 78.8 64.9
Length at Floor, Tailgate Open 100.3 86.3
Interior Width, Maximum 59.6 59.6
Distance Between Wheelhouses 45.2 45.2
Tailgate Opening Width 59.6 59.6

So essentially, even with the extended cab, the tub wouldn't be able to sit flat. It would at least fit inside the bed with the tailgate open

So even if I manage to find an extended cab (which they told me they don't have), I'm still not going to be able to set it in the truck bed oriented correctly. I guess having the tub hang out the back (w/crew cab) by 7" really isn't that much.

Now, I wonder if there's a way for me to put planks or something on the wheel humps and make a platform of sorts for it to sit on. That would be ideal, plus it would leave me room under the tub I think. Though it would completely annihilate the view from my center mirror.

So now I have to see what the colorado's specs are, and if that doesn't work, decide if I want to lay it on its side, pay more to get a fullsize truck, or pull a trailer behind the small truck.
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Here! http://saginaw.craigslist.org/pts/3470599203.html

Of corse I wouldn't buy a local tub if I were you. I would ask him if he has a s10 you can try pulling it on the trailer to see if it will work! If not he could probably give you a top 10 list of $1500 vehicles that would do the job best.
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Here! http://saginaw.craigslist.org/pts/3470599203.html

Of corse I wouldn't buy a local tub if I were you. I would ask him if he has a s10 you can try pulling it on the trailer to see if it will work! If not he could probably give you a top 10 list of $1500 vehicles that would do the job best.
alright wise guy, take it easy. that was posted 2 days ago, and since I haven't done my usual ohio/indiana/michigan search since last monday, I hadn't seen it.
You probably didn't even see my 2 examples of trucks I posted earlier that would work fine.... anyhow...

He does have a decent looking tub, but that's WAAAYYY more than I'm paying. If you think I just found a tub of equivalent price in Georgia, and just wanted to go down there for the view, or because I don't know how to use a calculator, than you're wrong.
I'm getting a GOOD deal on the tub and front clip, which is why I'm going to this effort.

I'll still be saving a solid amount of money INCLUDING the amount I spend on this trip (if I still use a smart way of getting down there.... like renting from enterprise)...
And now the only thing you can possibly have left to attack about all this is to say that the tub I'm getting must be a piece of junk!!
Also wrong!!

I've seen pics of it, and put a few up on here. It's in good shape. Thanks for your concern though.

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