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Old December 14th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #101
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I didn't read all the pages but as the owner of a ranger w/a 4.0L, I would go with that. The trans issues in this truck were late 90's/early y2k trucks. The first few years of the SOHC motor had timing chain guard issues. I've towed with mine (3.73's, 4wd, 31's, manual trans) from Detroit to silver lake w/a quad on a small trailer and got 20mpg. Good mileage can happen with these trucks and I get 17 in the city constantly.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 09:47 AM   #102
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You should probably just buy my powerstroke. An extra 140 miles on a 215k miles truck won't matter on your resale. You can have it for 7k. And its a crew cab so you'll be able to sleep in it. And its a long bed so you won't need to tow a trailer for your trip.
Here's an offer for you Chad. I'll buy your truck from you for $7K. I'll sell it to our problem child for $1500. I'll then buy it back from him for $1200. I'll then come back to you with an extra 1500 miles on it, tell you it has a noise and you need to take it back for what I paid or I'll sue you. You still have your truck, our problem child gets his over priced tub and I make $300.

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Old December 14th, 2012, 10:46 AM   #103
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I just upped my price to 8k for my troubles lol
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Old December 14th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #104
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contact route55 here on this board to transport it for you.
Beyond that, in reading the whole thread, you are way over thinking this.
Alright cool, did that.
See, even telling me Iím overthinking it is helpful. I thought I was just considering all the options, but maybe some of the options arenít worth considering. I do tend to overthink things a bit, so I guess thatís possible. I just thought there would be significant differences between models depending on engine/trans. Maybe not, since Iím towing so little.

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You should probably just buy my powerstroke. An extra 140 miles on a 215k miles truck won't matter on your resale. You can have it for 7k. And its a crew cab so you'll be able to sleep in it. And its a long bed so you won't need to tow a trailer for your trip.


haha yup I definitely need a $7k dollar truck. I think that's slightly overkill. And even if the price wasn't too high, I'd pass b/c of the miles anyways.

a quick check on craigslist looks like that's too high of a price for the miles (don't worry, I'm not trying to talk you down, because I dont have that kind of money anyways).

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3475483112.html
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I didn't read all the pages but as the owner of a ranger w/a 4.0L, I would go with that. The trans issues in this truck were late 90's/early y2k trucks. The first few years of the SOHC motor had timing chain guard issues. I've towed with mine (3.73's, 4wd, 31's, manual trans) from Detroit to silver lake w/a quad on a small trailer and got 20mpg. Good mileage can happen with these trucks and I get 17 in the city constantly.
well, if I can find any of those in decent shape, I'll certainly keep that in mind. Are 3.73's the lowest gears I'd want, or would 4:10 be ok too? And what gears would be too high? under 3.5x?

I'll definitely look into that, thanks.


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If you are looking at s10s there are things to look out for,and maybe use to your advantage when buying.
Ball joints,idler arms,and piman arms are common wear parts.Autozone stuff lasts less then a yr.Moog or napa premium should last the life of the car unless wheeled.
Heater cores are known to go out and a pita to replace.I have bought several s10s because the owner was quoted $1000+ at the dealer. For less then $75 and half a day of my labor I can save a decent little truck.
Fuel pumps wear out like any gm.Buy a delphi from napa,make sure the ground is good,and never worry about it again.
I have had reverse go out in two 95 blazers around 180,000.
alright cool. well the one I'm about to look at has a few new parts, like a tank and fuel pump, but the ball joints, idler arms and pitman arms I'll have to check out.
I don't think the heater core is bad on it, but I'll find out.

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Here's an offer for you Chad. I'll buy your truck from you for $7K. I'll sell it to our problem child for $1500. I'll then buy it back from him for $1200. I'll then come back to you with an extra 1500 miles on it, tell you it has a noise and you need to take it back for what I paid or I'll sue you. You still have your truck, our problem child gets his over priced tub and I make $300.

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works for me. only thing wrong with that is assuming my tub is overpriced, which it isn't, which is why i'm getting it. Still a deal even with gas costs.



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I just upped my price to 8k for my troubles lol

welp, that's a deal breaker.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #107
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My old mans has a 97 2wd f150 4.6 160,000 has new heads he was thinking bout selling. Pm me for more info
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #108
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you could tow what are looking to tow with a VW Golf, There is only a small strip with hills.

Rent a truck is cheaper than buying and selling one of unknown state, are you seriously that dumb.

Shipping is probably the cheapest route. I will be driving past this area, but unable to assist because i'm an asshole with a Fiero.

Finding a different tub is probably the best logical choice.

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a quick check on craigslist looks like that's too high of a price for the miles (don't worry, I'm not trying to talk you down, because I dont have that kind of money anyways).

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3475483112.html
You know you are comparing a what looks to be 2 wheel drive ex contractors single cab work truck to a loaded crew cab 4x4. Kickstand has his truck priced very inexpensive for what it is.

You are looking for the cheapest option to get a part others are trying to point out your route to get part could potentially backfire and be more money then other options.

To answer your original question. Look for the best deal in the best shape. Any truck 4 banger, 6 cylinder, 350, or diesel will get the job done. The best truck for your purpose will be whichever you can sell easiest when you get back. You have way over thought this. I think you are also a cheap bastard for going through all this trouble to save money on a few parts.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #110
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Quit asking questions.
Buy a damn vehicle already.
Go get your junk.
Post pics of trip and a tally of total expenses.
We will see who is right or wrong!
This should be good!
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Quit stalling and defending and just do it already. Heck why don't you find one down in Georgia take a bus down and drive the rust free truck back up. Then you might actually have a chance of selling it for what you bought it for. Not only would you end up with a (high mileage) rust free rig. But you could sleep on the ride down(unless you pick the stinky dog and stop every 100 miles)and save a huge chunk of cash on fuel.
Sure your buddy knows someone down there who has something they would be willing to sell for some holiday cash. You could have him check it out for you even so your not buying it blind. Worse case scenario you head down there and it is a pos then you simply rent a uhaul one way to get the tub back up.
Or just ship it truck freight, relax for a few days, and buy a second driver when one of those "wish I had the cash" deals comes along.
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you could tow what are looking to tow with a VW Golf, There is only a small strip with hills.
Rent a truck is cheaper than buying and selling one of unknown state, are you seriously that dumb.
Shipping is probably the cheapest route. I will be driving past this area, but unable to assist because i'm an asshole with a Fiero.
Finding a different tub is probably the best logical choice.
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Hmmm. A golf? The 2.0 4 cyl or the vr6? I guess I still don’t see the difference (according to your theory) between driving an “unknown state” golf and a pickup, other than the fuel savings, which I’m not sure how much that would be since the car would be towing a trailer. I would also be buying a golf of “unknown state” in the same price range, so tell me how that is smarter please.

Not to be rude, but this is very repetitive. I’m about to have the whole discussion over again. Renting a truck is NOT cheaper. I looked into it AGAIN yesterday. $650-750 depending on the company, the lower price has a high charge per mile after the included miles, the higher initial price has a lower charge etc. Then at least $320 in gas. I’ll do better driving myself.
Renting a 10’ Budget truck will cost me $1200. That’s awful. Plus gas @estimated 6-10 mpg off their website.

I talked to Route55, he said the tub was a little large for truck freight shipping. Regardless, he said he couldn’t do anything about it for another month or so, and I have to do it before then.

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You know you are comparing a what looks to be 2 wheel drive ex contractors single cab work truck to a loaded crew cab 4x4. Kickstand has his truck priced very inexpensive for what it is.

You are looking for the cheapest option to get a part others are trying to point out your route to get part could potentially backfire and be more money then other options.

To answer your original question. Look for the best deal in the best shape. Any truck 4 banger, 6 cylinder, 350, or diesel will get the job done. The best truck for your purpose will be whichever you can sell easiest when you get back. You have way over thought this. I think you are also a cheap bastard for going through all this trouble to save money on a few parts.
Ok, I didn't know that. all he said was powerstroke, no other info. still way more truck than I want to pay for.

I understand the risks of what I'm undertaking, but renting a truck has not been proven to be cheaper in any situation. I appreciate the concern, but the concern (criticism) has become the main staple of the thread, not what I actually asked,

I am, like you suggest, looking for just that: the best deal in the best shape. I have now, with the help of dozens of critical members, come to the realization that any pickup will do this job. Didn't know that before, now I do. Thanks everybody!!
Well since you think I'm a "cheap bastard," go ahead and write a check to me for $450, so I can pay additional costs to rent a uhaul truck and go down there.
If you aren't helping to pay, you can't expect me to spend my money more lavishly along the lines of the suggestions already presented. I'm a student, and I do things cheaply and efficiently. Even though everyone thinks this is terrible, I think it will work out.
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Quit asking questions.
Buy a damn vehicle already.
Go get your junk.
Post pics of trip and a tally of total expenses.
We will see who is right or wrong!
This should be good!
I actually haven't asked any questions in a while except in response to what has been suggested to me, and I am trying to clarify that information.

I will take my time in buying a vehicle, if you don't mind, and even if you do I'm going to find a good vehicle, not something that is falling apart. and yes, there are vehicles in my price range that aren't falling apart, so no need to start that circle again. The vehicle purchase may not even happen, because I'm still trying to figure out for a fact what the truck freight shipping would cost, as kindly suggested to me by so many.

The stuff I'm getting is not junk, thanks.

I will certainly post up, we will see, and I agree... it will be fantastic!!

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Quit stalling and defending and just do it already. Heck why don't you find one down in Georgia take a bus down and drive the rust free truck back up. Then you might actually have a chance of selling it for what you bought it for. Not only would you end up with a (high mileage) rust free rig. But you could sleep on the ride down(unless you pick the stinky dog and stop every 100 miles)and save a huge chunk of cash on fuel.
Sure your buddy knows someone down there who has something they would be willing to sell for some holiday cash. You could have him check it out for you even so your not buying it blind. Worse case scenario you head down there and it is a pos then you simply rent a uhaul one way to get the tub back up.
Or just ship it truck freight, relax for a few days, and buy a second driver when one of those "wish I had the cash" deals comes along.
That’s an interesting idea. I did consider it, but how much longer would a bus take with stops and all? I'll look into it. I could try by plane, but a ticket will cost me $560 for a one way, I got a quote yesterday. The uhaul on the way back up makes sense and could be doable if it was only for the 700 miles back, depending on the bus cost. I'll look into buses right now, but I don't know how many routes and buses I would have to change between. I'll see.

I'm trying to get quotes on your kind suggestion to
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Ship it truck freight idiot.
but I spoke with someone from usf holland on the phone today, and though it is cheaper, the size requires two packages which consequently add up to the same as the original quote I got. Still looking though.

I’m actually not stalling, but rather trying to reply to everyone who “knows” how to do this, but apparently hasn’t done the research. I’m waiting on a good vehicle, and a few other quotes for different options.
Thanks for your concern.

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Old December 14th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #114
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Just find a jetta or golf tdi and tow everything back. Brother towed with his jetta from maryland to michigan and then from texas to michigan with about 2500lbs on the trailer and got an average of 25mpg.

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Just find a jetta or golf tdi and tow everything back. Brother towed with his jetta from maryland to michigan and then from texas to michigan with about 2500lbs on the trailer and got an average of 25mpg.

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yea, that would work, the only thing is, the tdi's are super expensive. and if it was getting 25mpg, that means it was working real hard, cause those things get 45-50. Of course, my trailer would be a lot lighter.

So you would drive down there and back? If you read previous posts, I am often told to buy a cheap car and drive down there. The difference between that and a small truck.... I truthfully do not understand... other than possibly a mpg gain. it would definitely be harder on the car though...
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For those who want to suggest what has already been, here is a fairly brief summary of what I'm checking into.

1. A train or bus for the way down- price will be posted when I have a few quotes. May be feasible. I like it.

2. Fly down- $560
drive back (with truck bought in Georgia) gas=?? $200? food=$50? can't take more than 4oz with me.

3. Ship it via open carrier- $760-$815

4. Ship via Truck freight- I was told $420 for the tub, and $250 for the front clip. Still looking into it.

Talked to route55- he said my stuff was a little big for truck freight shipping.

5. buy a cheap car of some type? (v6, or even 4 cylinder jetta)? and drive that down there? (don't see how that's different than a truck- pls tell me)

Just so you all know I'm considering each idea I've been given.
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have you read any of my plans yet?? If it was JUST parts, I'd get them shipped. The items are fairly large. it wont be a piece of junk, sorry to disappoint everyone.

You probably should read how this thread started. The majority of the last 2 pages have had NOTHING to do with what I originally asked about.


Ok..... To humor you I went back and REREAD the shit.

I have come to a new conclusion, you are just playing the "what if" game on an internet forum looking to get your metaphorical dick sucked by a bunch of dudes.

Some are buying it some are not.



Quit about it and get it fucking done!
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They came with 3.55's, 3.73's and 4.10's stock. If you have 4wd and anything larger than a 31" tire you would want/need 4.10's or numerically larger ( am I going the right way?). Even at times I wish I ordered 4.10's. I knew I was gonna go larger. My highway mpg is awesome but I give it up offroading and I need to keep my rpms up to have fun.
2wd you can get 3.55's and I belive 3.08 gears were even an option. However I dunno which axle had which gear. 7.5 or 8.8. The 8.8 is what everyone wants and came in two spline counts either 28 (mine) or 31 (fx4 packages).

I dunno why I said all that, you just wanna DD w/ good mileage, not looking to wheel it...
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Ok..... To humor you I went back and REREAD the shit.

I have come to a new conclusion, you are just playing the "what if" game on an internet forum looking to get your metaphorical dick sucked by a bunch of dudes.

Some are buying it some are not.



Quit about it and get it fucking done!
well, I'm so glad to have your educated opinion on the matter.
You are, in fact, wrong. I am planning carefully for a fairly lengthy trip, and am trying to figure out the best way possible.

If you aren't "buying" it, please feel free not to comment. I am planning this for sometime in the next 3 weeks, I wont just go out and hastily make a plan.

Check back in about a month and you can catch up then.
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They came with 3.55's, 3.73's and 4.10's stock. If you have 4wd and anything larger than a 31" tire you would want/need 4.10's or numerically larger ( am I going the right way?). Even at times I wish I ordered 4.10's. I knew I was gonna go larger. My highway mpg is awesome but I give it up offroading and I need to keep my rpms up to have fun.
2wd you can get 3.55's and I belive 3.08 gears were even an option. However I dunno which axle had which gear. 7.5 or 8.8. The 8.8 is what everyone wants and came in two spline counts either 28 (mine) or 31 (fx4 packages).

I dunno why I said all that, you just wanna DD w/ good mileage, not looking to wheel it...
ok cool, thanks for that info. Yea, I'm not really looking to wheel it.
I'll keep the axles and gear ratios in mind when I'm calling about various rangers.
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