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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #41
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Texas has always been somewhat separatist, no big shock here.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #42
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Regardless of resources of the military, the US is very very close to a civil war. Civil unrest is at it's highest since the civil war itself. We're so divided it's almost unreal.

Honestly, I'm sick of the "entitled" demanding, while I bust my ass every day to give my family a good life. I'm sure anyone that works can appreciate what I'm saying. Since when was it acceptable to be proud that you're on foodstamps, or govermental help? It was never developed to be a lifestyle, but in fact a stop gap effort to help people stay on their feet.

While I can accept that some are born into fortuitous circumstances, since when were people complacent in lying down and not even trying to create a life?

Personally, a "civil war" may be exactly what it takes to right this ship. Republicans, Libretarians, and Independent Tradionalists have the majority of legal firearms, me included, so I'm good.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #43
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Regardless of resources of the military, the US is very very close to a civil war. Civil unrest is at it's highest since the civil war itself. We're so divided it's almost unreal.

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Personally, a "civil war" may be exactly what it takes to right this ship. Republicans, Libretarians, and Independent Tradionalists have the majority of legal firearms, me included, so I'm good.
I can't let this go.

Hate to bust your bubble, but the GOVERNMENT has the majority of legal firearms (and bigger, better ones) , so I don't the the Rebellion has too good of a chance.....
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Old November 15th, 2012, 08:04 PM   #44
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I can't let this go.

Hate to bust your bubble, but the GOVERNMENT has the majority of legal firearms (and bigger, better ones) , so I don't the the Rebellion has too good of a chance.....
That's what they said about the colonies against the British (who were the most powerful military force on Earth at that time).

Not to mention the fact that the military itself will be divided. We're not brainless drones. We have our own views and families all over the country.

Even if the entire U.S. military stood together in defense of the government... You're talking maybe 1.5 million against at least 200 million.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 08:36 PM   #45
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That's what they said about the colonies against the British (who were the most powerful military force on Earth at that time).

Not to mention the fact that the military itself will be divided. We're not brainless drones. We have our own views and families all over the country.

Even if the entire U.S. military stood together in defense of the government... You're talking maybe 1.5 million against at least 200 million.
Of those 200 million, how many would actually stand and fight, and how many would turn in their guns because the government told them to...... or you could ask an Englishman, or Australian, or Canadian, about how many fought to keep arms.

Remember- the 2nd amendment is just that, an amendment. It can be repealed.

Any civil uprising will likely be dealt with harshly. Look into our own past (civil rights marches, Vietnam war demonstrations, various riots like Detroit '67) and you will see that while the individual soldier is not a 'brainless drone', the govt as an institution has no qualms about ordering troops to fire on citizens. All they need is those soldiers that will do it.

Of course, this is an unlikely scenario. Our rights will be taken away by the voting public, all in the name of safety and the greater good.
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I can't let this go.

Hate to bust your bubble, but the GOVERNMENT has the majority of legal firearms (and bigger, better ones) , so I don't the the Rebellion has too good of a chance.....
Like a Death Star?
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Like a Death Star?
I was beginning to think the reference was too subtle.....
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If we would have let the south secede before we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Yankees can kick their ass again
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Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Anyone remember the reason for these lyrics? Ill leave it for BlooMule to explain.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #51
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Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Anyone remember the reason for these lyrics? Ill leave it for BlooMule to explain.
may 4th, 1970 shootings at kent state university.
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may 4th, 1970 shootings at kent state university.
Killings by the US Army( National Guard,,AKA:citizen soldiers) of unarmed students..............lets get it right



I know it gets much more complicated than that. But 4 students were killed and the government pulled the trigger.

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Killings by the US Army( National Guard,,AKA:citizen soldiers) of unarmed students..............lets get it right



I know it gets much more complicated than that. But 4 students were killed and the government pulled the trigger.
Yes, history shows that the government WILL pull the trigger on US civilians- even unarmed civilians. Armed US citizens won't get any breaks.
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