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Old November 9th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #121
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X2 on the WMD's
Info from one of the guys who destroyed them.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #122
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You should turn on NPR today. The anti-republican message is the worst it's ever been. Every story is directly attacking . The first story I heard this morning on NPR was how the white male caucus of Romney had been overcome by the black and hispanic coalition of Obama.
Well the candidate DID state that he would eliminate federal funding of PBS and NPR.

Duh.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:34 AM   #123
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Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country
What happened ???
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:38 AM   #124
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Nice one...use their words against them.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 02:32 PM   #125
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Iraq did have WMDs. Small stockpiles (<500) were found throughout the war.

To say Saddam didn't have chemical weapons is like saying the ocean is made of jello.

Or did the gassing of the Kurds not happen too?

Did Iraq have the massive stockpiles when we rolled in? Of course not. Most of it was relocated years before we got there. Saddam didn't seize control of an entire country and maintain an oppressive, murderous regime because he was a dumbass. He was a VERY smart man, knew we were coming and successfully made our government look retarded.

But we did find chemical weapons in Iraq. Just not enough to justify using it as an excuse to invade hence no great "AH HA!" moment.

And since those IEDs using those warheads DID manage to create enough Sarin when they were detonated to warrant treatment of those exposed... It was an attack using a chemical weapon that is universally accepted as a WMD. Once again you're trying to justify your argument by saying "Not enough people died for it to be mass destruction." That's not the point AT ALL. The point is Sarin is classified as a WMD by the world. Sarin shells were used by insurgents to attack American forces (which thank God they weren't nearly as effective as they could've been) and by admitting that they were indeed used in those IEDs you have also admitted to there being WMDs in Iraq.

They were there. Insurgents tried using them. They failed.

It's obvious that you are just going to continue to cherry pick parts of definitions and continue to spin your argument rather than admit that you MIGHT just be wrong in this case. YOU do not get to change the classification of a weapon because to fit an argument. It doesn't need any specific amount to be a WMD. The weapon itself IS a WMD.

So on that note... Enjoy your ignorance! You will always have the retard sticker stuck to your forehead.

Kurds 1980's....come back to reality to 2003..once angain U.N. inspectors found no WMD at this time. Some point after 1991 Iraq with U.S. and U.N. assistance was destroying WMD and various other armerments, chemical factories and stockpiles. Your 1st statement was "Iraq had WMD." still untrue for the year of 2003. "Had" yes back in 19?? till about 1998.
While we were invading Iraq; having found or had parts of sarin warheads used against U.S. troops doesn't point to Iraq as a whole country but once again the Taliban. This is like saying a militant cult with possibly WMD here in U.S. (lets say Texas) is reason another country shoud invade us. Whether Saddam and the Taliban were linked is still yet to be determined. Many believe he was. I don't have all the information and it seems as military you may have gotten intel thru debreifings that the john q public won't or doesn't know.

"In Iraq" sure, I'll give you that. Sarin used against U.S. forces, not many news post/stories on it(the story you linked is qouted saying still were't positive what it was). Sorry, I'll will admit I'm wrong here if they truely were.

Here's where my thoughts lead me too. U.S. has WMD, Iran, North Korea, and more.....Iraq even if some were found, seems like less then even the poorest of other countries.

Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq, while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".

I will go back to swimming in my ocean of J-E-L-L-O!
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Old November 10th, 2012, 02:48 PM   #126
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Old November 10th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #127
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I'm not clued-in to the latest and best intelligence information, but in the weeks before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, there were steady convoys of material being shipped to Syria.

The impending action against Iraq was the worst-kept secret in the world. I have no doubt that chief among the material moved to Syria would've been their best WMDs.

And playing the "they had WMD components, but the components are not of themselves WMDs" is weak sauce.

Now, don't get me wrong - the Iraq war has been mismanaged since its inception. Dubya wanted to nation build, which does not work and leaves us with an unclear exit strategy. The first gulf war was much better, when Colin Powell had clear objectives and an exit strategy.

Let's be clear. Hussein used WMDs against the Kurds and component parts of those gas WMDs were located. The intelligence that Hussein was seeking yellowcake uranium appears to have been flawed.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #128
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Was the election stolen from Romney?

http://www.floridapoliticalpress.com...tical-miracle/
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Was the election stolen from Romney?

http://www.floridapoliticalpress.com...tical-miracle/
I've seen a few like this. Precincts in Philly (where republican election challengers were forcibly removed) that had 90% turnout, with 95% of votes cast for Obie while all other Philly precincts saw about a 60% turnout.

Not enough facts, but some snakey stuff going on.

My wife witnessed social workers "helping" nursing home residents to complete their absentee ballots. Some of the voters were unresponsive, yet SEIU social workers could determine electoral preferences....
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Old November 11th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #130
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More evidence that this was planned right from the start. When found guilty of Treason, is hanging still the preferred method?

http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416
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