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Old November 1st, 2012, 09:09 PM   #41
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Old November 1st, 2012, 09:55 PM   #42
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Nothing wrong with getting a car from a dealer auction. My father has been doing it more then 20 years. Get something hit in the front with good bags drive the heck out of it then sell it after 3 or so years for about what he has in it. Use crash network parts, do the work yourself, and do it right, and you can save a huge amount of cash.

A ion is not my first choice but to each is there own and junk. I did look at a 04 vue redline briefly with the Honda engine in it. But, the thing went for 1600 which was more then I was willing to pay for something with so many known gremlins.

Also know that when bags go off on some cars it causes issues in starting and security and junk. I have only had a few cars with this where I had to trick it into thinking the bag was actually in place. I had a 95 ssei bonneville that was a freaking nightmare because if it. I flashed the pcm myself (not that hard but this one was a pain)and it was ok unless the battery was disconnected then I had to reprogram it. Live and learn and such. But I only had $1200 into it with 80k so I could not complain to much. I hit a deer 2 months after having it going 90 ish down a back road into work. Only 2 miles to work so I said F it and drove it there with no headlights and the hood caked up. Called dad after work, tossed it on the trailer, and derby'd it a month later. Good times.


You want it, get it, and drive it into the ground. Just remember it is a auction vehicle and if you did not do the repairs yourself your trusting the person who did.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 10:15 PM   #43
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Old November 1st, 2012, 10:17 PM   #44
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On the other hand technically if you replace,modify, or in any means alter even a fender on your vehicle the state requires an "inspection".
Imagine there is quite a few jeeps that should be inspected then huh.

You will be surprised just how light of a crash most insurance companies will total a vehicle out for. Light hits in the front are my fav. Ones there the front clip has not been pushed back usually requiring a fender, the hood to be fixed, new grill, lights, bumper and such. Typical parking lot stuff or someone sliding into a ditch at low speed with the car paid off is enough for it to be snatched for under 3k with around 90k on it.

While these will have a crash on there record they will not be sold as salvage vehicles. Any modification is back to stock condition and if done right is not noticeable. Tons are sold this way it is really a buyer beware kind of deal. Nit pick every little thing to make sure the person did not cut corners.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 10:43 PM   #45
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oh, is that all? Luckily, I'm not an idiot with a penis envy complex. I just want a car that can deliver good MPG's at a reasonable price that I can pay cash for, instead of having a car payment. OH, and that will tow a small trailer with a pair of dirtbikes.
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oh, is that all? Luckily, I'm not an idiot with a penis envy complex. I just want a car that can deliver good MPG's at a reasonable price that I can pay cash for, instead of having a car payment. OH, and that will tow a small trailer with a pair of dirtbikes.
Not sure if the 06 2.2 4 cyl still had the CVT, but if it does I wouldn't tow with it.
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Not sure if the 06 2.2 4 cyl still had the CVT, but if it does I wouldn't tow with it.
That one has a 5-speed Manual.
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oh, is that all? Luckily, I'm not an idiot with a penis envy complex. I just want a car that can deliver good MPG's at a reasonable price that I can pay cash for, instead of having a car payment. OH, and that will tow a small trailer with a pair of dirtbikes.
That's the person you used to be and then you bought a 600cc bike that actually will move so we were all hoping that your testes fell . . . and now this ion we know it didn't happen.


I think you have something "that can deliver good MPG's at a reasonable price that I can pay cash for, instead of having a car payment. OH, and that will tow a small trailer with a pair of dirtbikes" called a dakota. Why spending the cash again?
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That's the person you used to be and then you bought a 600cc bike that actually will move so we were all hoping that your testes fell . . . and now this ion we know it didn't happen.


I think you have something "that can deliver good MPG's at a reasonable price that I can pay cash for, instead of having a car payment. OH, and that will tow a small trailer with a pair of dirtbikes" called a dakota. Why spending the cash again?
Yes Drew, we understand your penis is very small, the Hayabusa and the Caddy have definitely picked up the slack.

My dakota isn't very comfortable and I would prefer to get closer to 30mpg than 20.

Sometimes it's just nice to change it up as well.

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Yes Drew, we understand your penis is very small, the Hayabusa and the Caddy have definitely picked up the slack.

My dakota isn't very comfortable and I would prefer to get closer to 30mpg than 20.

Sometimes it's just nice to change it up as well.
You forgot my 500hp Jeep. . . and the F350 clearly yells that I have a small wang.

It is nice to change up but to spend money to basically give you what you have?? I wonder how much gas savings the ION will have to give you to break even over you paid for truck
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Yes Drew, we understand your penis is very small, the Hayabusa and the Caddy have definitely picked up the slack.

My dakota isn't very comfortable and I would prefer to get closer to 30mpg than 20.

Sometimes it's just nice to change it up as well.
Have you done the math of the upfront cost, maintenance, insurance, of a second vehicle to "save gas".

How much fuel and maintenance can you put into that dodge.

Been down the multiple rides just because I can road. This is what I learned.

It is nice to switch up from time to time when you say blow past a cop going 80 in a 55 and want to park the truck for a while kind of deal. But, from a financial point it makes more sense to have one ride which you can maintain so you can have one good looking and running vehicle instead of two, or more ok running rusted piles.
At one point I had a tower, a luxury car, and a tj. Having all three, maintaining all three, and insuring all 3 was wasting easily over 300 bucks a month. I lied to myself by saying that I was "saving" the mileage off the tow rig by driving the Luxury car daily and the Tj was really more of a weekend deal.

So, I got rid of the tj, got rid of the tow rig, and drove the Luxury car because I could put 4 people in it comfortably and lightly tow with it. I rented a car dolly in states where I bought southern or western cars and would return them when I came back saving fuel on the way there. It was harder on the transmission requiring it to be rebuilt at 130k and 220k but even rebuilding the transmission twice and the engine once I still saved more then if I had maintained, insured, and drove the tower.

Buying a car just because it gets 5 or so mpg better mileage does not justify the increased coverage and payments. If you want a ion instead of a truck that's fine. But keeping both just to "save fuel" is just not right.

Like I said I have been down this road many times. I have easily owned over a hundred and titled and insured over 40 "beaters". It is better to put money into one sweet ride then to drive a beater get it running and drive it until it does not move any more then buy another, and another, and another.

Just trying to save you cash from someone that has wasted tons already going down this road.
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Have you done the math of the upfront cost, maintenance, insurance, of a second vehicle to "save gas".

How much fuel and maintenance can you put into that dodge.

Been down the multiple rides just because I can road. This is what I learned.

It is nice to switch up from time to time when you say blow past a cop going 80 in a 55 and want to park the truck for a while kind of deal. But, from a financial point it makes more sense to have one ride which you can maintain so you can have one good looking and running vehicle instead of two, or more ok running rusted piles.
At one point I had a tower, a luxury car, and a tj. Having all three, maintaining all three, and insuring all 3 was wasting easily over 300 bucks a month. I lied to myself by saying that I was "saving" the mileage off the tow rig by driving the Luxury car daily and the Tj was really more of a weekend deal.

So, I got rid of the tj, got rid of the tow rig, and drove the Luxury car because I could put 4 people in it comfortably and lightly tow with it. I rented a car dolly in states where I bought southern or western cars and would return them when I came back saving fuel on the way there. It was harder on the transmission requiring it to be rebuilt at 130k and 220k but even rebuilding the transmission twice and the engine once I still saved more then if I had maintained, insured, and drove the tower.

Buying a car just because it gets 5 or so mpg better mileage does not justify the increased coverage and payments. If you want a ion instead of a truck that's fine. But keeping both just to "save fuel" is just not right.

Like I said I have been down this road many times. I have easily owned over a hundred and titled and insured over 40 "beaters". It is better to put money into one sweet ride then to drive a beater get it running and drive it until it does not move any more then buy another, and another, and another.

Just trying to save you cash from someone that has wasted tons already going down this road.
I wouldn't be keeping the truck, so I'd be picking up a trailer to do any hauling with.
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Two cars welded together?!? That IS some real hillbilly stuff right there! Lmao They must have done it well enough that you wouldn't look twice at it unless you were really checking it out eh
It is actually an accepted practice. A buddy told me of a Porsche that was fixed that way and Porche acutally sold them the front clip to weld to the rear.

I have not seen it done but have heard of it a few times.

When I sell my cars that have had a decent amount of work done on them I sell them for at least a few grand under what they are worth, I have had nothing but happy customers who refer their friends and family. I stand behind my work and even though I do not offer a warranty I would take care of any issues that came up, to my discretion.
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I personally know 4 guys here in midland county that rebuild totals from insurance auctions, probably more if I really thought about it. Working in the auto parts I had the opportunity to talk to a few of them about how this actually works. In the state of MI it is actually possible to get an salvage title cleared and a green title reissued, upon inspection by a state approved official. Not, going to say it's the best system, but it is possible. On the other hand technically if you replace,modify, or in any means alter even a fender on your vehicle the state requires an "inspection".
you can not get a clear title if it's a salvage in michigan. if it's titled in michigan with a salvage title, it will always be a salvage in michigan. even if you title it out of state and bring it back to michigan, it will still be a salvage title.
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