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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:14 AM   #1
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sorry if this should be in politics,
a co-worker just sent me this article, thought I would share mostly because I'm curious of people's comments,
not sure of the accuracy of this but it sure would not surprise me.


http://www.windsorstar.com/Truck+tra...931/story.html
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #2
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oh, and sorry if this has been posted, I searched "bridge" and did not find anything recent.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #3
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As I've said before, if it benefits Matty Maroun, it can't be good.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #4
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As I've said before, if it benefits Matty Maroun, it can't be good.
until I read this article, I had no clue why the gov was pushing so hard for the new bridge...
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:49 AM   #5
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Maroon has put $31 million of his own money into getting the Michigan Constitution changed so it favors him and him alone, that's a good enough reason for me to vote against Proposal 6.

edit, changed 2 to 6

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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:56 AM   #6
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Maroon has put $31 million of his own money into getting the Michigan Constitution changed so it favors him and him alone, that's a good enough reason for me to vote against Proposal 2.
Hopefully you vote against Prop 6 as well since that's the one deals with the bridge issue.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:57 AM   #7
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Hopefully you vote against Prop 6 as well since that's the one deals with the bridge issue.
Oops, yep, I should know not to trust my memory.

He's also throwing a boatload of money at proposal 5.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 09:03 AM   #8
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No way in hell I am voting yes to 6. It makes no sense to have the private bridge. The way the deal is right now, Michigan will not have to pay for the building of the new bridge, Canada is going to spot the money and collect tolls until the $$ is made up and then we will split the tolls even. It is a win / win situation for Michigan.

The government of Canada will pay 1/4
The government of the USA will pay 1/4
Ontario will pay 1/2 (they took over the 1/4 that Michigan was supposed to pay)
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As I've said before, if it benefits Matty Maroun, it can't be good.
He has spent over 29 million of his own money fighting the bridge.. so.. umm that bridge wont pay for itself? I am pretty sure it will since he is fighting it and using that much of his own money to campaign.
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He has spent over 29 million of his own money fighting the bridge.. so.. umm that bridge wont pay for itself? I am pretty sure it will since he is fighting it and using that much of his own money to campaign.
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Thank you for that link. It really opened up my eyes to the situation.
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That's crazy if its all true..

I'm voting no on any and all Michigan constitution changes..
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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #14
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MM is the shit. That guy has it made.
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article in a winsdor newspaper

as a friend said to me, there seems to be enough $$ to go around

http://www.windsorstar.com/Truck+tra...931/story.html
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article in a winsdor newspaper

as a friend said to me, there seems to be enough $$ to go around

http://www.windsorstar.com/Truck+tra...931/story.html
I'm going to assume you did not read the op before you posted this...
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correct me if I am wrong, but if you all vote no on 6 will that not allow the government to build the bridge without voters consent.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/so...e_399444_7.pdf

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A proposal to amend the State Constitution regarding construction of international bridges and tunnels. (Proposal provided under an initiative petition filed with the Secretary of State on July 9, 2012.)
This proposal would add a new Section 6a to Article 3 of the State Constitution to read as follows:
Section 6a. (1) The people should decide whether state government may construct or finance new international bridges or tunnels for motor vehicles. Consistent with this policy, and to shield the people from unnecessary burdens, the state shall not undertake ownership and development of or use state funds or resources for new international bridges or tunnels for motor vehicles unless first determined to be necessary and appropriate by majority vote of the people.
(2) The provisions in this subsection (2) shall apply in the interpretation of this section. a) “Ownership and development” shall include all activities involving and
relating to all or part of commencing, constructing, or financing new international bridges or tunnels for motor vehicles, or related facilities, including but not limited to any one or more of the following: optioning or acquiring interests in property; promoting, designing, bidding, contracting for, or constructing; or in any manner directly or indirectly financing or assisting in financing property acquisition, design, or construction of such improvements.
b) “State” shall include the state of Michigan, and any one or more, or a combination of state agencies, authorities, commissions, districts, or other subdivisions or instrumentalities of state government.
c) The procedure for seeking a determination by majority vote of the people under this section shall be that procedure provided by law for the submission and approval of petitions to propose, enact, and reject laws by initiative under article 2, §9 of this constitution, with the exceptions that: 1) a proposal under this section may not be approved by the legislature in lieu of a vote of the people; and 2) an approval by the people shall require an affirmative vote of a majority of electors in both (A) the state and (B) each municipality in which improvements are situated, considering the impact on local services and facilities and that public ownership and operation would impact local property taxation.
d) “New international bridges or tunnels for motor vehicles” shall mean any bridge or tunnel which is not open to the public and serving traffic as of January 1, 2012. No vested rights are attributed to any state international bridge or tunnel initiative that is not serving traffic as of that date.
e) Any ambiguity in the interpretation of this section shall be resolved in favor of shielding the people from practical or financial burdens associated with state
Full Text of Proposed Constitutional Amendment Petition Sponsor: The People Should Decide Proposal 12-6 Page 2
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Old October 29th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #18
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Idk, snyder is saying yes on 1, no on the rest.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #19
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when I moved to Windsor I assumed that the bridge was gov owned. Since part of the governments role is to provide bridges and roads. This is fundimentally wrong. I beleive they (the Morouns)are too rich and quite corrupt they throw millions around detroit and area to what suits them by lining corrupt pockets.
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you guys need to email the link to everyone
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