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Old October 29th, 2012, 11:56 AM   #41
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RONG. Thats twice today. Waves get bigger as they travel into shallow water (shore). Jeez. You should go back to bed.
It's more complicated than that.

Deep water = longer wave lengths & taller wave heights.

Shallow water = shorter wave lengths and smaller wave heights.

True, as a wave enters shallower water, more of it is exposed - but they don't get higher. Shallow water also causes them to break as their natural height can no longer be supported.

What's why five foot waves on Lake Erie are much worse than Lake Michigan. On Erie, the wavelengths are only 25-30 feet and a five footer is breaking across most of western basin. On Lake MI, it's just a swell with a 75-100 foot wavelength.

Tsunamis have bigger waves that storms, because they more efficiently apply energy (direct kinetic energy from fault action on bottom) than wind (indirect application of wind energy).

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Old October 29th, 2012, 11:58 AM   #42
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green I didn't see any video's of a 30 foot tall wave from any recent tsunami's It looked a bit shorter.

When a wave comes in at half the height of one of those lighthouses let me know.
Because they broke in shallower water - but kept coming far inland with the higher energy driven by the earthquake.
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It's more complicated than that.

Deep water = longer wave lengths & taller wave heights.

Shallow water = shorter wave lengths and smaller wave heights.

True, as a wave enters shallower water, more of it is exposed - but they don't get higher. Shallow water also causes them to break as their natural height can no longer be supported.

What's why five foot waves on Lake Erie are much worse than Lake Michigan. On Erie, the wavelengths are only 25-30 feet and a five footer is breaking across most of western basin. On Lake MI, it's just a swell with a 75-100 foot wavelength.

Tsunamis have bigger waves that storms, because they more efficiently apply energy (direct kinetic energy from fault action on bottom) than wind (indirect application of wind energy).

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That, is what I was trying to say.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 11:58 AM   #44
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Because they broke in shallower water - but kept coming far inland with the higher energy driven by the earthquake.
No argument, but they were no longer 30 feet tall.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #45
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OMFG!!! RUN!!!!! 9footers to be had on Lake St. Clair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:12 PM   #46
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Anyone's facebook page blowing up with pic's posted from friends, family, etc. out east that were unwilling or unable to evacuate?

someone regurgitated this south jersey radio station's picture:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9665598&type=1

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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:12 PM   #47
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The center of hurricane sandy was located near latitude 37.5 north...longitude 71.5 west. Sandy is moving toward the north-northwest near 18 mph...30 km/h. A turn toward the northwest is expected soon...followed by a turn toward the west-northwest tonight. On the forecast track... The center of sandy is expected to make landfall along or just south of the

southern new jersey coast this evening or tonight.
Reports from an air force hurricane hunter aircraft indicate that the maximum sustained winds have increased to near 90 mph...150 km/h...with higher gusts. Sandy is expected to transition into a frontal or wintertime low pressure system prior to landfall. However...this transition will not be accompanied by a weakening of the system...and...in fact...a little strengthening is possible during this process. Sandy is expected to weaken after moving

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You live by the ocean you die by the ocean.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #51
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Looks like it is getting taller to me.

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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #52
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Looks like it is getting taller to me.

Wave breaking: Side - YouTube
Yeah, but it can only get so tall before it falls over. Thats what causes it to break, just let me know when one of these 30 footers is visible from shore and I'll admit I was completely wrong. (though I'm pretty sure you won't see one from shore, you'll have to be out in the lake where there is some deeper water)
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Looks like it is getting taller to me.

Wave breaking: Side - YouTube
Boring!

Much better!
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Leaving my house and going to Detroit isn't the same as driving into a storm for 10 hours. I would say I hoped the shooter shoots you in the ass too but it would be a lie since I secrety love you.
if he gets shot in the ass, aren't you afraid it'll break his glasses?
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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:45 PM   #56
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Anyone's facebook page blowing up with pic's posted from friends, family, etc. out east that were unwilling or unable to evacuate?

someone regurgitated this south jersey radio station's picture:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9665598&type=1

I have been on the phone all morning with people from our other office. I am feeling the panic and fear in their voice. It sucks being helpless to help them. I really think a lot of them thought that it was being overblown but they have over 40mph wind gusts and it hasn't even fully hit them yet.
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I have been on the phone all morning with people from our other office. I am feeling the panic and fear in their voice. It sucks being helpless to help them. I really think a lot of them thought that it was being overblown but they have over 40mph wind gusts and it hasn't even fully hit them yet.
yep.

the storm surge in Jersey is already at hurricane Irene levels and the eye of the storm is still 100 miles off shore. not to mention 8 hours from now the full moon's high tide will hit.
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yep.

the storm surge in Jersey is already at hurricane Irene levels and the eye of the storm is still 100 miles off shore. not to mention 8 hours from now the full moon's high tide will hit.
Hmmmmm..... I'm getting the impression this storm is gonna really leave a permanent mark.......
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Anyone's facebook page blowing up with pic's posted from friends, family, etc. out east that were unwilling or unable to evacuate?

someone regurgitated this south jersey radio station's picture:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9665598&type=1

Did anybody else look at that and think "Damn, that's a good seal on that door!"
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