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DuffMan · October 28th, 2012, 05:30 PM

Here is the lineup:

First, those who were "as black" as Obama:

Andrew Jackson - Black father and white mother. While he was President, his step-brothers (father's children) were slaves.

Calvin Coolidge - Black mother (who lived in the White House with his family for a time) and white father.

Dwight Eisenhower - White father and black mother.

Not "as black" (whatever that means) as Obama, but black enough for it to be an issue in their time:

Thomas Jefferson - His father was bi-racial (black and white) as was his mother (Native American/white).

Warren Harding - had a black great-grandfather. Tried to downplay it, but wouldn't deny it when pressed.

Unclear Group

Abraham Lincoln - Black father/white (possibly bi-racial) mother. Apparently Lincoln's father was tricked into believing Abe was his, when in fact his father was a slave on a nearby KY plantation. Lincoln's father was actually sterile from untreated childhood mumps. DNA testing on Lincoln's hair has confirmed this. He apparently looked pretty black in person, so much so that a political opponent labelled him "Abrahamus Africanus".

"So, What Does This Mean"

Nothing, really. I find it interesting to spin up all of the "I made history" Obama supporters. So. Obie is just the first "black-appearing" President, because there are others who just as "black".

firehawk · October 28th, 2012, 05:33 PM

OMG noooooooo!

Bullhed78 · October 28th, 2012, 06:09 PM

Very interesting if true. (Not calling you a liar, just don't know where your facts came from)

aber61 · October 28th, 2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullhed78

Very interesting if true. (Not calling you a liar, just don't know where your facts came from)

Have you seen how many posts he has? That in itself speaks volumes, if not google it.
I have seen and read his posts and I would have no reason to doubt what he posts.
Carry on.

DuffMan · October 28th, 2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullhed78

Very interesting if true. (Not calling you a liar, just don't know where your facts came from)

Various locations.

It highlights how race really wasn't as big a deal in our past as it is now.

Jefferson & Jackson were always pretty well-known. Eisenhower and Coolidge were the surprises. Lincoln led a screwed-up life.

Elvis13 · October 28th, 2012, 06:33 PM

Obama is not our President, he is America's savior.

aber61 · October 28th, 2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis13

Obama is not our President, he is America's savior.

You my friend are very delusional.

stinkpickle · October 28th, 2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

Here is the lineup:

First, those who were "as black" as Obama:

Andrew Jackson - Black father and white mother. While he was President, his step-brothers (father's children) were slaves.

Calvin Coolidge - Black mother (who lived in the White House with his family for a time) and white father.

Dwight Eisenhower - White father and black mother.

Not "as black" (whatever that means) as Obama, but black enough for it to be an issue in their time:

Thomas Jefferson - His father was bi-racial (black and white) as was his mother (Native American/white).

Warren Harding - had a black great-grandfather. Tried to downplay it, but wouldn't deny it when pressed.

Unclear Group

Abraham Lincoln - Black father/white (possibly bi-racial) mother. Apparently Lincoln's father was tricked into believing Abe was his, when in fact his father was a slave on a nearby KY plantation. Lincoln's father was actually sterile from untreated childhood mumps. DNA testing on Lincoln's hair has confirmed this. He apparently looked pretty black in person, so much so that a political opponent labelled him "Abrahamus Africanus".

"So, What Does This Mean"

Nothing, really. I find it interesting to spin up all of the "I made history" Obama supporters. So. Obie is just the first "black-appearing" President, because there are others who just as "black".

Hey, Hey! Dont forget William Jefferson Clinton! He was actually hailed as our first black prez. back in his term. http://www.salon.com/2002/02/21/clinton_88/

ckupq · October 28th, 2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

Here is the lineup:

First, those who were "as black" as Obama:

Andrew Jackson - Black father and white mother. While he was President, his step-brothers (father's children) were slaves.

Calvin Coolidge - Black mother (who lived in the White House with his family for a time) and white father.

Dwight Eisenhower - White father and black mother.

Not "as black" (whatever that means) as Obama, but black enough for it to be an issue in their time:

Thomas Jefferson - His father was bi-racial (black and white) as was his mother (Native American/white).

Warren Harding - had a black great-grandfather. Tried to downplay it, but wouldn't deny it when pressed.

Unclear Group

Abraham Lincoln - Black father/white (possibly bi-racial) mother. Apparently Lincoln's father was tricked into believing Abe was his, when in fact his father was a slave on a nearby KY plantation. Lincoln's father was actually sterile from untreated childhood mumps. DNA testing on Lincoln's hair has confirmed this. He apparently looked pretty black in person, so much so that a political opponent labelled him "Abrahamus Africanus".

"So, What Does This Mean"

Nothing, really. I find it interesting to spin up all of the "I made history" Obama supporters. So. Obie is just the first "black-appearing" President, because there are others who just as "black".

Holy shit Google is not your friend today is it.

SS · October 28th, 2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis13

Obama is not our President, he is America's savior.

The sarcasm is strong with this one.

DuffMan · October 28th, 2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ckupq

Holy shit Google is not your friend today is it.

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ckupq · October 28th, 2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

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Google some of the more recent ones specifically Eisenhower an Coolidge. Their parents are whiter than rice on a paper plate in a snow storm.

Jackson step-father might have been black but his real father was potato Irish.

I didn't look into Jefferson too much, but I cold see those two being not white.

Didn't do Harding or Lincoln. I agree Lincoln is kinda fucked up.

That being said, being even half black back then was a death sentence in politics if not real life. I doubt some of it is real being they would have been way darker than bama and more than likely not have made it as far.

brewmenn · October 28th, 2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

Various locations.

It highlights how race really wasn't as big a deal in our past as it is now.

Jefferson & Jackson were always pretty well-known. Eisenhower and Coolidge were the surprises. Lincoln led a screwed-up life.

I'll settle for one. Post one reference that goes beyond rumor that any of the above are true.

GreaseMonkey · October 29th, 2012, 07:29 AM

Interesting. I never knew this.

SS · October 29th, 2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey

Interesting. I never knew this.

You might want to side with Brewmenn on this one.

jimhri · October 29th, 2012, 08:16 AM

its NOT about race. it's about leadership and what is best for us. do we maintain our american dream philosophy or do we end up wearing burlap bags for clothing and toiling in the fields to feed others [as per N. Korea, Russia, et al]?

kickstand · October 29th, 2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aber61

Have you seen how many posts he has? That in itself speaks volumes, if not google it.
I have seen and read his posts and I would have no reason to doubt what he posts.
Carry on.

The number of posts a person has prove the reliability of their post? You sir are a right wing sheep and proving it on this one.

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Originally Posted by aber61

You my friend are very delusional.

You my friend are fucking retarded and suck at sarcasm.

GreaseMonkey · October 29th, 2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SS

You might want to side with Brewmenn on this one.

I believe DuffMan over brewmenn. Sorry Bruce!

It's just not something I've paid attention to or cared what race or mixed race past presidents were.

brewmenn · October 29th, 2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey

I believe DuffMan over brewmenn. Sorry Bruce!

I have not made any claims that I'm asking anyone to believe.

JohnnyJ · October 29th, 2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kickstand

The number of posts a person has prove the reliability of their post? You sir are a right wing sheep and proving it on this one.

You my friend are fucking retarded and suck at sarcasm.

No shit. You would be one of the smartest people here.

October 28th, 2012, 05:30 PM	#1
DuffMan Your Message Here Join Date: 11-05-05 Location: The Ile of Grosse Posts: 5,705 iTrader: (10)	Obama IS NOT the First (or second...) Black President Here is the lineup: First, those who were "as black" as Obama: Andrew Jackson - Black father and white mother. While he was President, his step-brothers (father's children) were slaves. Calvin Coolidge - Black mother (who lived in the White House with his family for a time) and white father. Dwight Eisenhower - White father and black mother. Not "as black" (whatever that means) as Obama, but black enough for it to be an issue in their time: Thomas Jefferson - His father was bi-racial (black and white) as was his mother (Native American/white). Warren Harding - had a black great-grandfather. Tried to downplay it, but wouldn't deny it when pressed. Unclear Group Abraham Lincoln - Black father/white (possibly bi-racial) mother. Apparently Lincoln's father was tricked into believing Abe was his, when in fact his father was a slave on a nearby KY plantation. Lincoln's father was actually sterile from untreated childhood mumps. DNA testing on Lincoln's hair has confirmed this. He apparently looked pretty black in person, so much so that a political opponent labelled him "Abrahamus Africanus". "So, What Does This Mean" Nothing, really. I find it interesting to spin up all of the "I made history" Obama supporters. So. Obie is just the first "black-appearing" President, because there are others who just as "black". __________________ This is the Pub. Leave common sense at the door.

October 28th, 2012, 05:33 PM	#2
firehawk MUDTHUG! Join Date: 10-02-07 Location: Clawson, Michigan Posts: 9,120 iTrader: (37)	OMG noooooooo!

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Bullhed78 Senior Member Join Date: 10-11-11 Location: Linden, MI Posts: 400 iTrader: (6)	Very interesting if true. (Not calling you a liar, just don't know where your facts came from)

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Elvis13 Senior Member Join Date: 05-15-11 Location: Addison Township, MI Posts: 1,144 iTrader: (7)	Obama is not our President, he is America's savior.

October 29th, 2012, 08:16 AM	#16
jimhri luv turning wine to urine Join Date: 09-17-07 Location: OAKLAND MI Posts: 2,500 iTrader: (3)	its NOT about race. it's about leadership and what is best for us. do we maintain our american dream philosophy or do we end up wearing burlap bags for clothing and toiling in the fields to feed others [as per N. Korea, Russia, et al]?