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Old October 18th, 2012, 01:14 PM   #121
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Old October 18th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #122
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So if one were to own what is classified as an "assault rifle", having legally purchased said weapon from a used private party with no paperwork exchanged(not required for rifles), thus the government having no record of said individual owning said weapon, what would happen if the "assault rifles" were deemed illegal? Would the owner be grandfathered in and allowed to keep it because he or she owned it legally before the ban? Would they have to turn it in to the government? Would they just go on with their life since there's no record of he or she owning said weapon? What if they were to be caught with it post-ban, but had no paperwork to show when or how they obtained it? Hypothetically speaking of course.
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No one in this thread owns a true assault weapon. I only personally know several people with one and they are FFL holders. I know of only 1 person in this thread with NFA items. Its a hassle but its well worth it.
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So if one were to own what is classified as an "assault rifle", having legally purchased said weapon from a used private party with no paperwork exchanged(not required for rifles), thus the government having no record of said individual owning said weapon, what would happen if the "assault rifles" were deemed illegal? Would the owner be grandfathered in and allowed to keep it because he or she owned it legally before the ban? Would they have to turn it in to the government? Would they just go on with their life since there's no record of he or she owning said weapon? What if they were to be caught with it post-ban, but had no paperwork to show when or how they obtained it? Hypothetically speaking of course.
is it select fire or FA?
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is it select fire or FA?
I'm talking, hypothetically of course, about normal run of the mill semi auto rifles that you could walk into Cabela's and buy. For argument's sake, let's call it a plain old semi auto AR-15 since that's what the general public and most politicians consider to be an "assault rifle". By the definitions listed for "assault rifles", they would qualify for the ban. So if they were banned, how would that be handled if one were hypothetically to unofficially own one?
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The problem is, the ban affects assault rifle 'wannabes' for lack of a better term. True select fire or full auto is already expensive and difficult enough to acquire legally that it's a non issue for law abiding citizens.

However, you can't reduce crime by making something 'more illegal'. You just make former law abiding citizens into quasi-criminals.
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No one in this thread owns a true assault weapon as far as i know. I only personally know several people with one and they are FFL holders. I know of only 1 person in this thread with NFA items. Its a hassle but its well worth it.
fixed! you dont know everything....
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sorry chad, I forgot you were here. that makes 1.
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The government that arises after a coup is often much worse that the one overthrown.
So we were better off as a British colony?
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Old October 18th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #130
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So we were better off as a British colony?
Often, not always.

Given the socialist leanings of the current administration, it's not too much of a stretch to see a possible dictatorship arise from a complete takeover. (polar opposite)

It's a good thing that scenario is unlikely.
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Often, not always.

Given the socialist leanings of the current administration, it's not too much of a stretch to see a possible dictatorship arise from a complete takeover. (polar opposite)

It's a good thing that scenario is unlikely.
Simply would not happen. Especially considering 90% of the military is not a fan. Him and his supporters would be wiped off the face of the earth and our Constitution would be reinstated. Most likely with a few new limiting safeguards on the powers of the federal government.

As for steveo's comment about who owns some heavier hardware in this thread...

Not too many people advertise they have fully automatic weapons or even NFA weapons on the internet in a semi-locally based forum. That is unless your brain stopped developing at age 13, you want all your shit stolen so you can file a nice insurance claim to buy all new shit, or are simply lying.

QUALITY firearms are an investment. Not a cheap one at that. In these times... advertising your weapons to strangers on a public forum is about the equivalent of putting out a sign bragging about how much gold you have under your kitchen floorboards.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #132
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Once we move back to Michigan sometime around Christmas I will gladly go to the range with anyone who wants to go and teach them the basics of AR15s, AR10s, bolt actions and a mess of different types of pistols and revolvers. No need to bring your own. I'll bring some of mine and you'll have the opportunity to try them out and see what fits you and what you're most comfortable with. Safely and without ridicule.
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Simply would not happen. Especially considering 90% of the military is not a fan. Him and his supporters would be wiped off the face of the earth and our Constitution would be reinstated. Most likely with a few new limiting safeguards on the powers of the federal government.

As for steveo's comment about who owns some heavier hardware in this thread...

Not too many people advertise they have fully automatic weapons or even NFA weapons on the internet in a semi-locally based forum. That is unless your brain stopped developing at age 13, you want all your shit stolen so you can file a nice insurance claim to buy all new shit, or are simply lying.

QUALITY firearms are an investment. Not a cheap one at that. In these times... advertising your weapons to strangers on a public forum is about the equivalent of putting out a sign bragging about how much gold you have under your kitchen floorboards.
irony?
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I don't see any. Can you tell me what I have in my safe right now?
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Old October 18th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #134
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we had a long gun registry here in Canada. can you imagine registering even shotguns. It took a majority conservative government to sqash it. It cost millions and millions to register everything. I was a hold out until I got caught (I wont go into details) they were confiscated(sp).during this time I found out england had a complete gun ban! because they were all registered WE saw vidios of them being picked up by huge magnet to go to the smelter. it is so bad over there that the olympians had to come to Canada to practice. Im just not sure on the "assault rifle" labeling. I think it would be better to have a definition before the legistlation passes you guys need to get rid of Obama no matter who is running against him. He is a weisel who has shown he cant be trusted at all, and on all points. I wonder if Romney wins if he will unseal Obamas records and then be able to repeal all of his legistlation. I am not a fan can you tell
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Yup,pretty bad when a Canadian sees our President is a douchebag
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Ive often wonder what weapons their military is allowed use :-p
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Ive often wonder what weapons their military is allowed use :-p
I know this much, MSP, required to carry at all times.
OPP- must turn in weapon at end of shift.

Maybe the Canadian military has tactical paintball guns.
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I know this much, MSP, required to carry at all times.
OPP- must turn in weapon at end of shift.

Maybe the Canadian military has tactical paintball guns.


now thats funny
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Remember the Europeans left theit homelands to escape the type of government that that wingnut is trying to build. BIG and STUPID and all encompasssing and huge misuse of power and opressive. Thats what the freedom is- from government and tyrany.Now the gop want to steal from peter to pay welfare therefore the majority of voting power is to the laziest and least educated. Pass on every anti Obama email you get get them out to everyone. you need to educate everyone!!!
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Remember the Europeans left theit homelands to escape the type of government that that wingnut is trying to build. BIG and STUPID and all encompasssing and huge misuse of power and opressive. Thats what the freedom is- from government and tyrany.Now the gop want to steal from peter to pay welfare therefore the majority of voting power is to the laziest and least educated. Pass on every anti Obama email you get get them out to everyone. you need to educate everyone!!!
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