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Old July 17th, 2012, 12:05 PM   #41
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Thanks Jim! Looks like I better take some things apart and take a closer look...
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Old July 18th, 2012, 07:26 PM   #42
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my front axle seems to be fubar'd as well. Trying to weight the options of stepping up to 6-lug/5K axles from the 3500lbers.

I only have 2 good tires left, so it'd be a matter of picking out some good Wag rims and going with some new tires and then upgrading axles.
I did just that last year am I'm glad I did.
See my previous post if there is any doubt about scarryness of #3500 axles. The bearing size alone is enough to make you run!

For less than 1G I got 2 #6000 Dexter axles, 3" diameter tube 1/4" wall, EZ Lube, both with electric brakes (12 X 2) and 6 rims and U-bolts, nuts, spring plates, and lug nuts, 2 extra bearing sets and dust caps for spares shipped from New York. It was an online store and the guy was GREAT to deal with. I gave everyone I could find in Michigan a chance to beat or even match that price and no one wanted to touch it.
I researched this for 8 months and found the only difference between #6000 and #8000 axles is the load carrying capability of the rims/tires. The outer bearing set is very sightly different but I looked the bearing numbers up and they are nearly identical load capability. The inner bearing is all the same from #6000-#8000. I stayed with 15" because I had 4 brand new Marathon tires already.
If I was in your position I would do 16" and 8 lug #6000 and call it good.
Scrap the waggy rims in favor of real trailer rims. Rims were only like $26 each. Not worth the compromise.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #43
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For less than 1G I got 2 #6000 Dexter axles, 3" diameter tube 1/4" wall, EZ Lube, both with electric brakes (12 X 2) and 6 rims and U-bolts, nuts, spring plates, and lug nuts, 2 extra bearing sets and dust caps for spares shipped from New York. ... I could find in Michigan a chance to beat or even match that price and no one wanted to touch it.

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??? FWIW, I got quotes for 6000# drop spindles, with springs, tires, ezlube, lugnuts ect. local, in Muskegon, for 250 a piece.
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Best place to buy Goodyear Marathons?

As far as axle ratings, I get that 6000# axles are nice but I don't see the need on a flatbed. In all my years towing with 3500# axles, this is my very first issue. Knock on wood, I've never burned up a wheel bearing, ever. Maybe it's time for me to look up the bearings and check their actual ratings.
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Jim M - thanks for the heads up.


I had a hard time finding Marathons years ago when I swapped from Carlisles, and ended up getting them from the tire store near your work. That was back before I moved to the fenton area, so they were easy for me to get tires from on the way to and from work.

But you might give Dewey's in Fenton a call. He's a goodyear dealer.

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Old July 19th, 2012, 07:53 AM   #46
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what size jim, deweys has then in stock or can get them by afternoon. call and talk to nick or jerry and let them know you race/ go 4x4 with us.

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Best place to buy Goodyear Marathons?

As far as axle ratings, I get that 6000# axles are nice but I don't see the need on a flatbed. In all my years towing with 3500# axles, this is my very first issue. Knock on wood, I've never burned up a wheel bearing, ever. Maybe it's time for me to look up the bearings and check their actual ratings.
I've only posted twice in this thread for you to run the 15 minutes up the road to dewey's in fenton.

I have 4 perfectly good still full tread good year marathons. If you want to trade them out for your worn out tires and give me $100 they are yours, but you'll have to do it today or tomorrow.
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Jim M - thanks for the heads up.


I had a hard time finding Marathons years ago when I swapped from Carlisles, and ended up getting them from the tire store near your work. That was back before I moved to the fenton area, so they were easy for me to get tires from on the way to and from work.

But you might give Dewey's in Fenton a call. He's a goodyear dealer.



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and then VanKams, was 30 - 50 bucks more IIRC....

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Fabricator (Kevin) works there also.)
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I've only posted twice in this thread for you to run the 15 minutes up the road to dewey's in fenton.

I have 4 perfectly good still full tread good year marathons. If you want to trade them out for your worn out tires and give me $100 they are yours, but you'll have to do it today or tomorrow.
Thanks Chad but yours are 14" & I need 15.

I ended up ordering D rated 225's from Dewey's so there's another win for you.
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Deweys is good to work with...and Jerry looks like this

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??? FWIW, I got quotes for 6000# drop spindles, with springs, tires, ezlube, lugnuts ect. local, in Muskegon, for 250 a piece.
Untouchable price if they are DEXTER brand by name. USA manufactured.
The drop spindle alone is plus $150 and the brakes are another $90. That's in addition to the bare axle.
You get what you pay for and I refuse to be stranded on th side of ther road ever gain.
Would be interested in the vendor as I am looking to rebuild another trailer.
Post up who the source in Muskegon is please unless it was the one in your post above.
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Thanks Chad but yours are 14" & I need 15.

I ended up ordering D rated 225's from Dewey's so there's another win for you.
Good, they are good people and have always been more then helpful on tires for me and my family.

Yeah, I got your text about the 15's.
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In some cases bearings can be the problem. I just replaced bearings on two trailers. they looked good, but when we compared them with new bearings the cage was a lot tighter on the new sets. I guess its just a million miles of normal wear.
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After reading this I want to upgrade from my 3500 axles to 6000. My trailer is about 2,000lbs

I have a drum/hub that broke the inner bearing part off and it rode on the brake pads for short distance before it was noticed but did not damage anything else. Just got the drum red hot. I think it happened when I drove over a bunch of something in the middle of I-75 that resembled 1-2 inch conduit or PVC, didn't notice it until it was too late, it was right in front of Great Lakes Crossing.

The upgrade will require new wheels, I have new tires already and will keep those, they are 235/80/16 Carlisle radials.

Keeping it cheap would be to replace the hub and brakes all around as they are needed or spend quite a bit more and replace it all and upgrade.

Last option to choose is 6 or 8-lug?

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