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Old September 20th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #21
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Yes it is true. You are refering to SSB, upper and lower sideband frequencies.

If he's running sidecars he in a different freq band.


BTW, don't fukk with the FCC, learned that when I was 16.
What did they pop you for? I have always thought it was one of those things where you were "okay" so long as you didn't key up and power over a TV station in the neighborhood or something ridiculous.
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What did they pop you for? I have always thought it was one of those things where you were "okay" so long as you didn't key up and power over a TV station in the neighborhood or something ridiculous.
There's so much splatter with CB and the bandaid job they do to boost the signal strength that you can interfere with way more than just a TV.
It's not the FCC you need to be afraid of it's the signal hunters that seek out overpowering transmission, triangulate them, and report them. It's actually a game for RDF gangs. Much like geocaching, they take pride in finding these illegal signals.

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You probably want to be careful who you talk to about working on that illegal radio.
he edited his post that contained the "illegal" details of his radio set up. However, you quoted it.. So it's still visible in this thread. May want to do him a favor and go back and edit your "quoted" reply.
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my uncle's old neighbor used to have a boosted CB, every time they key'd that thing up it'd bleed over and you'd be able to hear it through the computer speakers... that were unpowered.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 06:18 AM   #25
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There's so much splatter with CB and the bandaid job they do to boost the signal strength that you can interfere with way more than just a TV.
It's not the FCC you need to be afraid of it's the signal hunters that seek out overpowering transmission, triangulate them, and report them. It's actually a game for RDF gangs. Much like geocaching, they take pride in finding these illegal signals.

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I don't doubt one bit that they can figure out who you are and where you are. I am sure there is a way to do it safely and not mess with other frequencies, but, like you said so many jobs are hacked basement work it is easier to just ban them all.

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my uncle's old neighbor used to have a boosted CB, every time they key'd that thing up it'd bleed over and you'd be able to hear it through the computer speakers... that were unpowered.
I have head of a guy that was using a one of the old satellite antenna to transmit and receive. Think the old school 6' diameter metal mesh antenna, and could only key up between 2 and 4am because of the bleed through.

HAMs do sound like the way to go. One of these days I will get book and licensed. I may have to talk to Phittie when I am at school this term and start learning.
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They can definatly find you if they are determed.

Google "fox hunting", hams have contests to find hidden recievers all the time. This event is held specifically for honing skills needed to find non-compliant stations.

The amateur Radio service is self policeing(sp?), so some of them take it very seriously, so as not to require the FCC to fiddle in their business.
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It's not the FCC you need to be afraid of it's the signal hunters that seek out overpowering transmission, triangulate them, and report them. It's actually a game for RDF gangs. Much like geocaching, they take pride in finding these illegal signals.

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"Signal Hunters"...lol...sounds like a new show on the History Channel. Or maybe "American Signal Hunters" ... Or how about "Signal Wars"

Im so sick of all these "American xxx", or "xxx Wars". They need to come up with some clever new names for shows these days.
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I don't doubt one bit that they can figure out who you are and where you are. I am sure there is a way to do it safely and not mess with other frequencies, but, like you said so many jobs are hacked basement work it is easier to just ban them all.



I have head of a guy that was using a one of the old satellite antenna to transmit and receive. Think the old school 6' diameter metal mesh antenna, and could only key up between 2 and 4am because of the bleed through.

HAMs do sound like the way to go. One of these days I will get book and licensed. I may have to talk to Phittie when I am at school this term and start learning.
It took me two weeks to study and take the test. It took my wife three.
It's not all that hard. Take the online tests, get 80-90% passing consistently and then got take your test.
You mentioned before you were into ham radio. Did you get your license back then or were you a listener?
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Old September 21st, 2012, 01:05 PM   #29
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http://www.hamradiolicenseexam.com/index.html

$25 for the online study material, took me about 10 hours despite having flunked P2 (electricity and magnetism) in college. Another $15 for the exam.
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They can definatly find you if they are determed.

Google "fox hunting", hams have contests to find hidden recievers all the time. This event is held specifically for honing skills needed to find non-compliant stations.
That's why we say we do it. Mostly it's just for fun.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 08:01 AM   #31
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I went and took a class with my father and brothers. Its been probly 15yrs since I've been on. I remember haveing a lot of great conversations. I remember one night a guy said he was in Alaska. I don't know if it was truly possible it sure was a clear cold night.
I am planing on doing some trail riding and was going to pull out the old cb to have some sort contact where the phones don't work.
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I don't remember what my call sign was anymore.
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Pretty easy to find.........

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...rchLicense.jsp

Key your name in and any other pertinent info when it was assigned to you. Not sure how far back they keep the inactive ones but it would be interesting to see if you're still in there.

As far as hearing Alaska, hell yeah. Piece of cake.
Not on 2M but certainly 20meters and probably 40 also depending on the time of day and solar cycle, yada, yada, yada.........
I can pull my HF radio out of my case, throw a piece of wire in the trees and probably catch somebody on the air somewhere.

Don't , I repeat DON'T waste your time breaking out the CB in the hopes of finding any intellegent conversation outside of your circle of friends on a local trail ride. CB is not and was never was intended to be a long distance communication chat band. That's why the output was limited to 4W mobile and I think 12W base. If you really want to get into radio communication go back and get your Tech license to talk locally. Or upgrade to General and you can start talking long distance on an HF radio.

Great Lakes Ham Radio licensed members are increasing at every event. Even MSG has with the cooperation of Drummond Island installed a repeator to facilitate communication during their DOA event every year.

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What did they pop you for? I have always thought it was one of those things where you were "okay" so long as you didn't key up and power over a TV station in the neighborhood or something ridiculous.
I was repairing CB's without a license when I was 16. Back then you were supposed to have at least a technician's HAM license to work on transmitters. Did a few final output swaps to boost a stock appearing radio to 25 watts. One of my customers broadcast my phone number (well, my mom's phone number) Got a knock on the door and they confiscated my gear. In hindsight, I got a slap on the wrist, but at the time it was scary as hell.
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I tried the search and failed to come up with any results. I will look at getting back into it again. I guess that I did not think of using Ham in a mobile unit. I never used a CB as form of regular conversation, never heard so many people bitch, whine and complain as I did while I was over the road. Although it did make some of those long days and nights go by sometimes. Using the Cb has been worse now than I can ever remember, I leave it off unless I see someone I know.
By the way, thanks to the help...
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