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Old September 5th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #1
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I watched her last night and could not finish. The bull was so deep and thick it started to smell in my house.

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Old September 6th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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Pretty funny comment from Steve Inskeep this morning on NPR while interviewing deputy Obama campaign manager Stephanie Cutter

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/06/160654...ide-enthusiasm


INSKEEP: I want to ask about a line in Michelle Obama's speech on Tuesday night. She was talking about values she learned from her family. And she referred to learning honesty and integrity and that the truth matters. Now, she was talking in general terms about values she'd learned, but reporters in the hall saw that as a very subtle dig at Republicans, who are accused of misstating a lot of facts at their convention. Was it in fact a dig at Republicans?

CUTTER: I think that she was saying what she believes in, that honesty does matter, particularly when you're talking to the American people about where you want to take this country. It's not a particular dig anybody. But as we move forward in the lead-up to the election, we should just take note about, you know, who's being honest, and you know, speaking honestly about some of the tough challenges that we face, and speaking honestly about our solutions to those challenges.

Last week I was in Tampa and, you know, one of the senior advisers to the Romney campaign, you know, had the gall to say that our campaign is not going to be run by fact-checkers.

INSKEEP: Are you going to let your campaign be dictated by fact-checkers?


CUTTER: We do everything we can to ensure accuracy in what we say and what we do. We put a lot of effort into making sure our advertisements and our - things that we're doing this campaign are as factual as possible.

INSKEEP: What did you think the other day when PolitiFact, the fact-checking website, found you were wrong on TV when you said that President Obama's job creation had exceeded President Reagan's record?

CUTTER: Well, I actually misspoke there.
And I'm happy to say that. And what I meant to say, that President Obama's job creation record, private sector job creation record, exceeded President Bush's in his recovery. Overall, over the eight years of the Bush administration, they actually saw a negative job number. They lost private sector jobs. We're at 4.5 million private sector jobs up over the past 29 months.

And, you know, Steve, I just want to make one other point. A big difference you're going to see this week compared to last week is that we are running on our ideas. We're not hiding any details, not answering questions. You'll see our ideas and our vision for how to move this country forward all over this convention. Last week not one tangible idea was put out by the Republican Party to move the country forward.

Mitt Romney, a $5 trillion tax cut that he won't tell anybody how he's going to pay for. You know, there's another side of honesty here, is being honest with the American people about what your policies are and what they mean for them. And that's something that Mitt Romney continues to play hide the ball with.

INSKEEP: Stephanie Cutter, thanks for much for taking the time.

CUTTER: Thanks, Steve.

INSKEEP: She's at the Democratic convention. Now, at the end there she said that under President Obama there's been a gain of 4.5 million private sector jobs in 29 months. She is correct, as she stated it, though that does not count the loss of government jobs or the collapse in the job market as the president took office in 2009. In total, after that big drop in jobs at the start of the Obama administration, the number of people employed in this country is getting close to the same number as when the president took office.
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INSKEEP: She's at the Democratic convention. Now, at the end there she said that under President Obama there's been a gain of 4.5 million private sector jobs in 29 months. She is correct, as she stated it, though that does not count the loss of government jobs or the collapse in the job market as the president took office in 2009. In total, after that big drop in jobs at the start of the Obama administration, the number of people employed in this country is getting close to the same number as when the president took office.
Yes, not only did he stop the collapse that was in progress when he took office, but he has rebuilt back to where we were before.
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Yes, not only did he stop the collapse that was in progress when he took office, but he has rebuilt back to where we were before.
[stupidliberalcomment]"He didn't build that, the government systems Bush put in place built that"[/stupidliberalcomment]
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Pretty funny comment from Steve Inskeep this morning on NPR while interviewing deputy Obama campaign manager Stephanie Cutter

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/06/160654...ide-enthusiasm


INSKEEP: I want to ask about a line in Michelle Obama's speech on Tuesday night. She was talking about values she learned from her family. And she referred to learning honesty and integrity and that the truth matters. Now, she was talking in general terms about values she'd learned, but reporters in the hall saw that as a very subtle dig at Republicans, who are accused of misstating a lot of facts at their convention. Was it in fact a dig at Republicans?

CUTTER: I think that she was saying what she believes in, that honesty does matter, particularly when you're talking to the American people about where you want to take this country. It's not a particular dig anybody. But as we move forward in the lead-up to the election, we should just take note about, you know, who's being honest, and you know, speaking honestly about some of the tough challenges that we face, and speaking honestly about our solutions to those challenges.

Last week I was in Tampa and, you know, one of the senior advisers to the Romney campaign, you know, had the gall to say that our campaign is not going to be run by fact-checkers.

INSKEEP: Are you going to let your campaign be dictated by fact-checkers?


CUTTER: We do everything we can to ensure accuracy in what we say and what we do. We put a lot of effort into making sure our advertisements and our - things that we're doing this campaign are as factual as possible.

INSKEEP: What did you think the other day when PolitiFact, the fact-checking website, found you were wrong on TV when you said that President Obama's job creation had exceeded President Reagan's record?

CUTTER: Well, I actually misspoke there.
And I'm happy to say that. And what I meant to say, that President Obama's job creation record, private sector job creation record, exceeded President Bush's in his recovery. Overall, over the eight years of the Bush administration, they actually saw a negative job number. They lost private sector jobs. We're at 4.5 million private sector jobs up over the past 29 months.

And, you know, Steve, I just want to make one other point. A big difference you're going to see this week compared to last week is that we are running on our ideas. We're not hiding any details, not answering questions. You'll see our ideas and our vision for how to move this country forward all over this convention. Last week not one tangible idea was put out by the Republican Party to move the country forward.

Mitt Romney, a $5 trillion tax cut that he won't tell anybody how he's going to pay for. You know, there's another side of honesty here, is being honest with the American people about what your policies are and what they mean for them. And that's something that Mitt Romney continues to play hide the ball with.

INSKEEP: Stephanie Cutter, thanks for much for taking the time.

CUTTER: Thanks, Steve.

INSKEEP: She's at the Democratic convention. Now, at the end there she said that under President Obama there's been a gain of 4.5 million private sector jobs in 29 months. She is correct, as she stated it, though that does not count the loss of government jobs or the collapse in the job market as the president took office in 2009. In total, after that big drop in jobs at the start of the Obama administration, the number of people employed in this country is getting close to the same number as when the president took office.
So your point is NPR will and does call out liberals.
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Yes, not only did he stop the collapse that was in progress when he took office, but he has rebuilt back to where we were before.
I know you're playing the other side - but one could just as easily state that of the few employers that added people back to the payroll, they may have done so on the shaky confidence that with the Senate in Repub control, and with the number of State Governors that swung to the Right that there may be a chance to stifle some of the Left Lean that dominated the Congress for part of Bush's term, and a chunk of Obama's.

I myself prefer to key in on the fact that finally people are talking about the number of underemployed, and those that have quit looking.

The numbers are pretty damned bleak for anyone that has lost a job since 2006 or so - those that have found work, on average have taken jobs best characterized as significantly "underemployed".
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Yes, not only did he stop the collapse that was in progress when he took office, but he has rebuilt back to where we were before.
Except that 2009 was after the initial collapse of the economy (stock market crash)


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So your point is NPR will and does call out liberals.
Yes, NPR has a tendency to bias the presentation of their stories toward the left, but they do also call out liberals...including the deputy campaign manager for Obama.
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Except that 2009 was after the initial collapse of the economy (stock market crash)
Yep, it was when the labor market crashed, which is what we're discussing.

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Yep, it was when the labor market crashed, which is what were discussing.
Sorry, this thread is about the dishonesty of the Democratic Party.

How can anybody with a thread of honesty in them be associated with a party that will come right our a lie with a straight face and when caught in the lie still deny it.

The removal of the wording God from thier platform, the wording of saying Jeruselem is not the capital of Israel. Then with the outcry from the people they decide, "we'd better include the wording of God and also say that Jeruselem is the capital of Israel".
With the vote on the DNC floor last night, the majority of the vote was ney, but they called it unamimous as a yea.
The people on the floor said No to God three times. Just saying," how far removed does the democratic party want to be from God and Israel"?
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We already had one pervert for president(Clinton) we don't need another.
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I know you're playing the other side - but one could just as easily state that of the few employers that added people back to the payroll, they may have done so on the shaky confidence that with the Senate in Repub control, and with the number of State Governors that swung to the Right that there may be a chance to stifle some of the Left Lean that dominated the Congress for part of Bush's term, and a chunk of Obama's.

I myself prefer to key in on the fact that finally people are talking about the number of underemployed, and those that have quit looking.

The numbers are pretty damned bleak for anyone that has lost a job since 2006 or so - those that have found work, on average have taken jobs best characterized as significantly "underemployed".
Yep, figures don’t lie, but liars can figure. Facts can be spun to support any argument.

BTW I have quit 2 jobs and been laid off from one since 2006. If anything I am currently “overemployed”. The last few projects I’ve worked on that been government funded. Thank you.
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Sorry, this thread is about the dishonesty of the Democratic Party.

How can anybody with a thread of honesty in them be associated with a party that will come right our a lie with a straight face and when caught in the lie still deny it.

The removal of the wording God from thier platform, the wording of saying Jeruselem is not the capital of Israel. Then with the outcry from the people they decide, "we'd better include the wording of God and also say that Jeruselem is the capital of Israel".
With the vote on the DNC floor last night, the majority of the vote was ney, but they called it unamimous as a yea.
The people on the floor said No to God three times. Just saying," how far removed does the democratic party want to be from God and Israel"?
Sorry, didn’t mean to try to hijack your thread. Just pointing out that I was referring to the same “collapse” as the article posted was, the collapse of the labor market.

Carry on posting lies of the . I’m sure you could fill many pages. I just hope you’re not believing everything the tell you either.

And if you don’t believe in God and aren’t too fond of Jews the answer would be “as far away as possible.”
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Just was glad to see no one talking to a chair.
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Sorry, didn’t mean to try to hijack your thread. Just pointing out that I was referring to the same “collapse” as the article posted was, the collapse of the labor market.

Carry on posting lies of the . I’m sure you could fill many pages. I just hope you’re not believing everything the tell you either.

And if you don’t believe in God and aren’t too fond of Jews the answer would be “as far away as possible.”
I have no problem with you jumping in and giving opinions on comments about articles within.
I know that we do have dishonest politicians on both sides of the isle. I can see more of it coming from the left with no appolgy when caught in one.
I can think of the people giving their votes on that matter were according to the one pic, the looked to be muslim so his stance would be no to Israel and no to our God.
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Sorry, this thread is about the dishonesty of the Democratic Party.

How can anybody with a thread of honesty in them be associated with a party that will come right our a lie with a straight face and when caught in the lie still deny it.

The removal of the wording God from thier platform, the wording of saying Jeruselem is not the capital of Israel. Then with the outcry from the people they decide, "we'd better include the wording of God and also say that Jeruselem is the capital of Israel".
With the vote on the DNC floor last night, the majority of the vote was ney, but they called it unamimous as a yea.
The people on the floor said No to God three times. Just saying," how far removed does the democratic party want to be from God and Israel"?
I'm watching the DNC on PBS now. The commentators just drilled Madeleine Albright about this. They said 'we're all the no-s and ney-s being yelled from Democrats' and she said 'but the party recognizes isreal'. Bla, bla, bla.
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