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Old August 29th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #1
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Anyone paying attention to the convention? The corruption is shocking even for politicians.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-...b_1838617.html
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Old August 29th, 2012, 02:44 PM   #2
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ummmm........... I don't care. Ron Paul didn't have the votes either way so his delegates were just making a statement rather than getting behind the nominee. A non issue in my mind.

On a different note that may have a bigger impact is the assholes who were harassing a black news woman. That issue may get some negative traction.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 04:19 PM   #3
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Huffington post... real reliable place to get straight,, honest republican news.... hahahahaha

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Old August 30th, 2012, 01:30 PM   #4
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ummmm........... I don't care. Ron Paul didn't have the votes either way so his delegates were just making a statement rather than getting behind the nominee. A non issue in my mind.

On a different note that may have a bigger impact is the assholes who were harassing a black news woman. That issue may get some negative traction.
So the fact that delegates elected from the states can now be replaced by the national party doesn't matter to you?

It isn't really about Ron Paul it is about bottom up politics being replaced by top down politics within the party. The Liberty movement is young, motivated, and growing. The GOP kicked them out of the tent.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #5
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straight, honest republican news
As if such a thing exists.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #6
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As if such a thing exists.
straight, honest news no longer exists, period.

Facts don't sell.

Opinions and fiction disguised as facts sell.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 01:51 PM   #7
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So the fact that delegates elected from the states can now be replaced by the national party doesn't matter to you?

It isn't really about Ron Paul it is about bottom up politics being replaced by top down politics within the party. The Liberty movement is young, motivated, and growing. The GOP kicked them out of the tent.
I agree that changing the rules mid-process is a pretty dirty thing to do and if I were a Ron Paul supporter I would be pretty pissed. It's actions like this that make me think the GOP realizes that they are basically disintegrating into a few separate parties (one very socially conservative, one very fiscally conservative, and one that is a mixture of the two) while actively pushing any sort of moderate out and this rule change was a grasp at straws to try and look more cohesive than they actually are.
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Anyone paying attention to the convention? The corruption is shocking even for politicians.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-...b_1838617.html
Huffinton Post is about as fact based as The Onion.

While Paul supporters are dedicated and fervent, most don't see him as a viable candidate. Huffington Post is trying to divide the right and you took the
bait.

Romny/Ryan 2012
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Huffinton Post is about as fact based as The Onion.

While Paul supporters are dedicated and fervent, most don't see him as a viable candidate. Huffington Post is trying to divide the right and you took the
bait.

Romny/Ryan 2012
I'm not a fan of the huffington post either but I didn't get my opinion of the RNC from Huff-po. I posted the article because it was the only "mainstream" source that even mentioned what happened. This article was a pretty fair summary of what happened according to the people who were actually there and blogged about it.

The GOP is divided. They are trying to hide the Liberty revolution who is attempting change the party from within. The GOP were largely successful at hiding the divide.

If you want to get deep into what really happened take a stroll over to the daily paul.

http://www.dailypaul.com/

There is nothing right about the Romney/Ryan ticket.
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There is nothing right about the Romney/Ryan ticket.
Other than it's better than Obama/Biden.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #11
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Is Fox News right wing enough?

http://www.youtube.com/user/BenSwannRealityCheck
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I'm not a fan of the huffington post either but I didn't get my opinion of the RNC from Huff-po. I posted the article because it was the only "mainstream" source that even mentioned what happened. This article was a pretty fair summary of what happened according to the people who were actually there and blogged about it.

The GOP is divided. They are trying to hide the Liberty revolution who is attempting change the party from within. The GOP were largely successful at hiding the divide.

If you want to get deep into what really happened take a stroll over to the daily paul.

http://www.dailypaul.com/

There is nothing right about the Romney/Ryan ticket.


Just because Paul supporters are having tantrum does not divide the party. In fact, maybe they should start their own party. They can call it the "Pity Party"

If you look at Ron Pauls record you would see he is not very good at reaching across the aisle, if he was he would have passed at least a couple pieces of significant legislation in his 20+ years in office. He has the same record as Obama in sponsored/authored legislation that has passed, and he's been in DC since the 70's.

I'm glad he is where he's at, but he's just not presidential material.
He is the best weapon the have. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 05:44 AM   #14
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Still not seeing that this is not about Ron Paul?

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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:53 AM   #16
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I guess I must be missing something here. So there’s a rule for the RNC that says they can ignore all the primaries from the past year and nominate someone else if a few states submit enough signatures?
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I guess I must be missing something here. So thereís a rule for the RNC that says they can ignore all the primaries from the past year and nominate someone else if a few states submit enough signatures?
pardon me for showing my age but that's the way conventions USED to operate. delegates actually negotiated their nomination votes with others and there were ofter multiple floor votes before a candidate was nominated. now the primaries are a taxpayer costly dog and pony show that gets the candidate a lot of free publicity at our expense.
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pardon me for showing my age but that's the way conventions USED to operate. delegates actually negotiated their nomination votes with others and there were ofter multiple floor votes before a candidate was nominated. now the primaries are a taxpayer costly dog and pony show that gets the candidate a lot of free publicity at our expense.
Yes, if itís not decided on the first ballot then it can go into back room deals until one candidate gets enough delegates to win the nomination. This hasnít happened since 1948. You must be really old.

But I still donít understand why they would have a rule that a few states with enough signatures could circumvent the entire process and nominate whoever they want.
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Sounds like all the disgruntled Ron Paul supporters should throw their votes to Obama... I'm sure he would appreciate the extra 8 or 9 votes
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Old August 31st, 2012, 01:02 PM   #20
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Yes, if itís not decided on the first ballot then it can go into back room deals until one candidate gets enough delegates to win the nomination. This hasnít happened since 1948. You must be really old.

But I still donít understand why they would have a rule that a few states with enough signatures could circumvent the entire process and nominate whoever they want.
I'm not sure they will even need signatures. If I understand it correctly the national committee can replace any delegate they want to replace for any reason they choose, and replace them with anyone of their own choosing.
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