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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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Default lock bolts / washers that work the best? Atlas cover bolts keep coming loose

Apparently the bolts on the cover of my Atlas came loose because I have a puddle of oil on my skid and nothing showing in the sight tube. :shaking:

Unfortunately, getting to these bolts means pulling the tcase out, which means taking the floor and seats out - not a fast job.

I want to use whatever is most effective to keep the bolts from coming loose. I've never had any luck with normal split washers. I've had the best luck with this style. I'm thinking these style bolts and red Loctite. Any other input?



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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:13 AM   #2
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Do you realize that if applied properly, red loctite requires heat to get them loose? I prefer blue.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:16 AM   #3
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Do you realize that if applied properly, red loctite requires heat to get them loose? I prefer blue.
The blue is useless to me. I gave up on it years ago. I've never yet had to apply heat to get the red apart. Its definitely a lot tougher than blue, but I can always get it out with a ratchet or wrench. And once it "breaks the seal" of the initial bond, they turn out increasingly easier.

I want to overkill the hell out of this. I'll use red Loctite AND.........
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I did learn that AA swited to the serrated bolts shown above. I ordered them. I'm actually considering safety wiring it too.
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I will take that atlas problem off your hands, just ship it to me.

Those serrated bolts and red should do it.
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The blue is useless to me. I gave up on it years ago. I've never yet had to apply heat to get the red apart. Its definitely a lot tougher than blue, but I can always get it out with a ratchet or wrench. And once it "breaks the seal" of the initial bond, they turn out increasingly easier.

I want to overkill the hell out of this. I'll use red Loctite AND.........
If you are using red loctite and you don't need heat......... you are not applying it properly. Go through a loctite class and learn about the solvents and cleaning required to make it work as designed. Most people just dab some on the bolt and screw it into an oily hole accomplishing nothing.

My covers haven't come loose "yet". I don't understand why you are having the problem. Seems odd to me.
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loctite class, is this for people who pay for friends? err, i mean club members only?
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loctite class, is this for people who pay for friends? err, i mean club members only?
Obviously you are not involved in building robust, precision equipment.
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I don't know. Do you have issues with bolts coming loose on your components? Are they subjected to high heat, loads, vibrations? Do your employees slop stuff together or do they know how to actually use the products properly?

I thought I knew a lot about fastener containment till I sat in a session. I was surprised at how much I did not know. Now, back on topic, if you can loosen red loctite without heat, you are not applying it right.
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