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Old August 2nd, 2012, 07:04 AM   #1
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Winch Issues

I finally got around to installing my winch (Engo E9000s) but I'm having some issues getting things to work right. Hoping someone may have some advice before I contact Engo.

I hooked up everything per the instructions provided. With the Jeep running at idle if I press in on the controller it kills my Jeep. Revving it to 3k barely keeps it running and the winch barely spools rope in. Initially I thought maybe my battery couldn't support the load, but after it dies it fires right back up like nothing happened. The other oddity is that the positive cable running from the winch to the battery gets really hot. Like hot enough to melt the insulation. I'm out of ideas and a bit frustrated. Anyone think of anything obvious I'm overlooking? Alternator is a brand new 130A unit also.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 07:46 AM   #2
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:32 AM   #3
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Battery cables are new within the last 6 months, plus I went through some issues chasing grounds for an unrelated issue so I know they are all good. Any reason to ground the winch straight to the chassis or block rather than battery?
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:35 AM   #4
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Google it, "winch cables getting hot" I was looking around and looks like ground to chassis is recommended.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:38 AM   #5
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:41 AM   #6
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How are you attaching the winch cable to the battery?
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:44 AM   #7
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:45 AM   #8
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Not sure what you mean. Red to postive, black to negative. When I redid my wiring I used mil-spec terminals (like these: http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/ind..._detail&p=1010), the lugs from the winch cables are attached via the clamp screw on the terminals.
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Pics will have to wait until tonight.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:46 AM   #10
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A bad ground will cause a hot cable,not cause your engine to die.A cheap china made winch with a dead short inside would cause all kinds of problems.Or if cheap china made winch was trying to power in both directions at once,it would cause problems.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:56 AM   #11
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It's always best to have both positive and negative cables going directly to the battery.
If you ground to the chasis, it has to ground through the frame, and any ground cables to find it's way back to the battery to complete the circuit. Finding resistance all along the way.
What you most likely have going on, is a miss wired solenoid (it is a China made nock-off). Check your wiring diagram that came with the winch. Or better yet, google a Warn diagram. The colors may be different, but all the wires need to go to the same locations.
Is also possible to have a short in your remote ( it's trying to go in and out at the same time). Do a continuity check on the remote.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 10:55 AM   #12
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It's always best to have both positive and negative cables going directly to the battery.
If you ground to the chasis, it has to ground through the frame, and any ground cables to find it's way back to the battery to complete the circuit. Finding resistance all along the way.
What you most likely have going on, is a miss wired solenoid (it is a China made nock-off). Check your wiring diagram that came with the winch. Or better yet, google a Warn diagram. The colors may be different, but all the wires need to go to the same locations.
Is also possible to have a short in your remote ( it's trying to go in and out at the same time). Do a continuity check on the remote.
The vendor I bought it from suggested I call Engo. I'll try to keep this updated.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 11:15 AM   #13
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mine use to kill my jeep as well, i put a red top in it and it has worked great ever sense.
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Not sure what you mean. Red to postive, black to negative. When I redid my wiring I used mil-spec terminals (like these: http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/ind..._detail&p=1010), the lugs from the winch cables are attached via the clamp screw on the terminals.
I meant the mechanical connection.

On mine I have a marine dual purpose battery. The battery cables go to the lugs on the battery while the winch cables connect to the 3/8" threaded lugs.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 11:54 AM   #17
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I meant the mechanical connection.

On mine I have a marine dual purpose battery. The battery cables go to the lugs on the battery while the winch cables connect to the 3/8" threaded lugs.
i also did the same when i switched to to the red top. truck runs off the top posts and winch runs off the side (GM STYLE) posts
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:09 PM   #18
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I meant the mechanical connection.

On mine I have a marine dual purpose battery. The battery cables go to the lugs on the battery while the winch cables connect to the 3/8" threaded lugs.
I read somewhere that you should always go to the post, that a lot of times the threaded lugs are not rated for as high of amperage draw. Either way, they're connected at the posts.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:37 PM   #19
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Well I'm a fucking idiot (no surprise there). I talked to Joel @ Engo, turns out I've got the negative/ground from the battery on the wrong post on the winch.
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