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Old July 25th, 2012, 02:36 PM   #41
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Email trail. From the synopsis I read, there were emails to and from Paterno talking about the incident looking for updates.

Not dissimilar to how Kwame went down with the texts, or Ford got its ass burnt on the pinto with the letter from the engineer talking about the problem. Just another form of technology to get your ass burnt.

Sorry Joepa and the BOD at State Penn, you knew and felt that getting the most wins in collegiate history was more important than protecting children from a predator.
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I do not have the energy to argue this anymore, Read the Freeh report and look at this purely from a justice stand point without bias due to the actual crimes in question and I think you will agree that Paterno was not given the right to be innocent until proven guilty..
NCAA sanctions are not the judicial system. What are you talking about innocent until proven guilty?

The University hired Freeh themselves to look into the situation and do acomplete report, that was done. So, the report is sanctioned by PSU saying this is in fact whats happened. Based on that, the NCAA imposed its punishment.

None of that is criminal trial, or even involving the legal system at all, and none of that requires any presumption of innocence or burden of proof or whatever.
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Kids we're raped, fact
sanduskey knew fact
School officials knee fact
Paterno knew fact
It happened in football facility fact
Shut it down for life. End of story.

Tctrojan defends kid douchers and "says things like "pull a kickstand" fact....ban him he's fucktarded
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I heard they are moving the Joe Pa statue to the school library to remind everyone to keep quiet.
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[QUOTE=kickstand;3115557]Kids we're raped, fact
sanduskey knew fact
School officials knee fact


Holy shit this changes everything. School officials knee!
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Old July 25th, 2012, 07:16 PM   #46
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Kids we're raped, fact
sanduskey knew fact
School officials knee fact


Holy shit this changes everything. School officials knee!
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And yes I know it looks like i fucked the quote up.
Can't properly quote dumb fucks.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 07:29 PM   #48
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Why do I feel like I'm being yelled by a teddy bear.

Can you provide me with the full checklist. I didn't realize there was one, nor did I realize you were the end all be all of proper online quoting.

Or was I only quoting the part that I thought was funny.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #49
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The Freeh report corrects its errors:

# The original Freeh report states that Curley met with Sandusky in 1998, after campus police and state child welfare authorities launched an investigation that resulted in no criminal charges. Today's correction notes that that meeting actually took place in 2001.
# In two different instances, the original report cites an email from Wendell Courtney, the university's lawyer, to Schultz, in which it says Schultz wrote, "I was never aware that ‘Penn State police investigated inappropriate touching in a shower' in 1998." Today's correction says it was Courtney, not Schultz, who made that comment.

But tctrojan knows more than the Freeh report. It is a joke of a report and he would be more qualified to conduct this investigation and report out. He has access to a crack team of middle school kids that would shine in writing a report of this magnitude.
What do these corrections have to do with anything, the corrections that were reported today are irrelevant to this conversation. The DOJ and FBI feel Freeh's work is questionable enough to review it due to alleged false reporting. His report is very poorly written, try reading it before discussing it and if he is found to be in the wrong after the DOJ and FBI's investigation is over then his work will be considered a joke.
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I'm not MORE upset. I'd like to see any child molester go down in flames and anyone who knew about it/ hid it be severly punished.

Regarding Paterno, it happened under his watch. Anyone in any form of supervisions knows that they have to take responsibility for things that happened under their watch.
I will agree with what you said. Regardless of whether he knew or not i do agree that he should of taken responsibility for what happened during his tenure.

What everyone seems to be failing to understand is that my issue is how many people are instantly declaring someone guilty based on the media and a report that they have not even read. So they are just being sheep who are incapable of forming their own opinion on the matter.
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NCAA sanctions are not the judicial system. What are you talking about innocent until proven guilty?

The University hired Freeh themselves to look into the situation and do acomplete report, that was done. So, the report is sanctioned by PSU saying this is in fact whats happened. Based on that, the NCAA imposed its punishment.

None of that is criminal trial, or even involving the legal system at all, and none of that requires any presumption of innocence or burden of proof or whatever.
I was not trying to use it in a sense of all of this happening in the actual judicial system. More in the sense of how the public has viewed this situation from day one. Whether or not any of it was required the man still deserved the benefit of the doubt until it was shown otherwise. If not what stops me from saying you bang little boys? Should everyone assume it is true since the presumption of innocence is not required in your eyes?
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Get rid of number 3 on the list and you are describing kickstand!
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I was not trying to use it in a sense of all of this happening in the actual judicial system. More in the sense of how the public has viewed this situation from day one. Whether or not any of it was required the man still deserved the benefit of the doubt until it was shown otherwise. If not what stops me from saying you bang little boys? Should everyone assume it is true since the presumption of innocence is not required in your eyes?
JohnnyJ already answered this.
There was a fucking paper trail.
Either paterno or his admin sent emails discussing Sandusky and the cover up. Sure.....his admin probably orchestrated the whole thing.
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I was not trying to use it in a sense of all of this happening in the actual judicial system. More in the sense of how the public has viewed this situation from day one. Whether or not any of it was required the man still deserved the benefit of the doubt until it was shown otherwise. If not what stops me from saying you bang little boys? Should everyone assume it is true since the presumption of innocence is not required in your eyes?
And I think he had it, months ago, until it was actually shown otherwise. A lot of people tended to say "oh, he's so old and from another generation, that he probably just don't quite grasp it and understand what to exactly the right thing is".... not an excuse, but people kinda made an excuse.

Then came the university's investigations, including the Freeh investigation (which again, the university hired him to do the report to find out what really happened), and the evidence presented in the criminal trial, which found the man guilty, which also validates much of that paper trail evidence. I think in the court of public opinion, yeah, people condemned him because its all right there. And a lot of other bad stories as well, university officials run out of town after crossing paths with JoePa.

The sanctions are classic NCAA: commit the crime, they'll punish you, but cover things up, and they'll drop the hammer.
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I heard they are moving the Joe Pa statue to the school library to remind everyone to keep quiet.
They rotated it 180 degrees, to remind you to look the other way...
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Kids we're raped, fact
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School officials knee fact


Holy shit this changes everything. School officials knee!
Learn to quote, then rip on me for an autocorrect mistake on my phone.
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Learn to quote, then rip on me for an autocorrect mistake on my phone.
I forgot that everyone on here was a English major.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark


In case anyone else would like to learn proper quotation.
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I forgot that everyone on here was a English major.
You're the one who attempted to ridicule my typo...and couldn't even figure out the quote
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You're the one who attempted to ridicule my typo...and couldn't even figure out the quote
Am I doing it right yet. I merely deleted out what I didn't want to quote. I thought you had thicker skin then that. I thought the typo was funny.
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