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Old July 14th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #1
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Default UN Small Arms Treaty: Barack Obama’s Backdoor Gun Control May Pass

Libs will deny that this is true...pray it isn't, and vote accordingly in November.

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UN Small Arms Treaty: Barack Obama’s Backdoor Gun Control May Pass

There are always enemies of individual liberty. Many, in socialist and globalist circles, hate the fact that the common US citizen can exercise his or her liberty of free speech, worship without government intrusion, and is protected by ‘due process of law’. However, there is no hate in this world among those who promote and prop up tyranny like there is against the 2nd Amendment: the US citizen’s God-given liberty to own firearms.

This is why men, like George Soros, put in an ‘honest day’s work’ attempting to utilize United Nations powers in order to neutralize US sovereignty and the 2nd Amendment with it. According to John Wolverton, II of The New American, Soros is pulling every little string possible to strip your home of its defenses against crime and tyranny:

George Soros is financing the fight to give the United Nations control of your guns.

Through his Media Matters organization, Soros is dumping pro-UN gun control propaganda into the mainstream media to coincide with the United Nations Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty being held in New York July 2–27.”

While it is difficult to sift through the various UN treaties, the ‘small arms treaty’ is a part of a much larger initiative to curtail individual gun rights. In essence, the ‘small arms treaty’, the ‘Law of the Sea’ treaty, and the ‘Arms Trade Treaty’ can be bundled into one giant effort to remove US sovereignty, giving the UN control over the liberties of US citizens, nullifying protections Americans have enjoyed since the birth of the US.

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have already vowed to sign such a treaty. In fact, both have largely been working behind closed doors, as they know full-well that Americans would surely show staunch resistance if their agenda committed to ‘open war’.

Douglas J. Hagmann of the HomelandSecurityUS.com reports:

Regardless of how unlikely it would appear that the U.S. Senate would ratify the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, the antagonism to the right to bear arms in the U.S. by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and our elected officials cannot be disputed. While seeming to loathe the Second Amendment, the majority of their efforts to enforce gun control appear to be “under the radar” to avoid raising the ire of the advocates of the right to bear arms.”

What does this mean for Americans? All of these ‘treaties’ have a common thread, which boil down to 4 directives. Katie Pavlich, the Editor of TownHall.com, reports:

-Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership.

-Confiscate and destroy all “unauthorized” civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course).

-Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the anti-gun media never seem to grasp).

-Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation.

In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.”

According to various White House insiders, Barack Hussein Obama has not been idle, saying, “I just want you to know that we are working on it,” he continues …“We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.” Perhaps, this is why the President has been curiously silent on the subject, as he does not want to attract attention to what he is truly doing through the various UN treaties.

Either way, this spells bad news for American gun rights. Anthony Martin of the Examiner.com stated:

As the United Nations prepares its final push to ratify a controversial gun treaty, the U.S. Senate is set to approve the measure which critics say will not only give away U.S. sovereignty but directly attack the individual gun rights of American citizens, according to a report published Thursday at Stand Up America.

Democrats still hold the majority in the Senate.”

If we wish to keep our liberties, then we must send a clear message to our politicians …their jobs will not survive election day if they even consider the ‘small arms treaty’ to be a good idea. The disarmament of the American people will signal the beginning of the end of any semblance of freedom we had left. As the saying goes, ‘Hitler, Stalin, and Mao agree …gun control works.’
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Isn't there something like 200 million privately owned fire arms in the US? I just don't ever see "full-scale gun confiscation" ever happening.

But if they ever did try...holy shit. The chaos that would ensue. I'd say they better come with a tank battalion, and not the local PD and a guy in a suit, because there are some people that have A LOT of firepower. I think they would also find that there are a lot more people than just the Ted Nugent, NRA freaks of the world that aren't going to simply say, "Here, take them."

What I could see is tighter regulations making getting anything beyond a cap gun a pain in the ass. Restrictions and regulations are what our country is good at.

From what I've seen over the past 4 years really seems to be that public paranoia has been the biggest fueling of prices and supply issues. Kinda makes me wonder how bad it's going to be if the dipshit gets re-elected.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 10:34 AM   #3
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It won't happen at one massive time. It's the baby step principal. First make sure through a treaty that all guns are registered and accounted for. Then another treaty that says we will eliminate one type of gun. Then another. Then shotguns. All while they profess "it's just this one".
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It won't happen at one massive time. It's the baby step principal. First make sure through a treaty that all guns are registered and accounted for. Then another treaty that says we will eliminate one type of gun. Then another. Then shotguns. All while they profess "it's just this one".
I kinda see that. But I think they would regulate and restrict instead of confiscating. Then the "pre-ban" grandfathered weapons would start going for astronomical prices and your general population wouldn't be able to afford them.

Either way it's not a step in the right direction.

The people that start revolutions are first seen as treasonous traitors but, depending on the outcome, heroes in history. The more shit that happens in this country makes me wonder if/when we will see some crazy fuckers make a try...
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Treaties and other international agreements are subject to the Bill of Rights.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp
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Which of the facts they site are you questioning?
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Snopes is ran by Very Liberal people, While I beleive non-political stuff from them, I do not beleive anything they claim to be true or false about political stuff.
Snopes.com is run by a husband and wife couple. The wife is a Canadian and unable to vote in the U.S. and the husband is a independent who was previously registered as a Republican. They don't sound like "very liberal" people to me.

Would you prefer a FactCheck debunking? http://factcheck.org/2012/06/still-n...un-ban-treaty/
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Isn't there something like 200 million privately owned fire arms in the US? I just don't ever see "full-scale gun confiscation" ever happening.
I agree that it sounds pretty far-fetched.

But again, forty years ago, I would've found it equally unlikely that people couldn't smoke in bars.

Look at how quickly the decision was made (and acted on) to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in New Orleans after Katrina - arguably when they were needed the most.

It won't happen waterfall style. As stated, it'll happen incrementally.

First, re-enact the Clinton assault weapon ban (which was the worst gun law ever, as it was based on appearances and terminology).

More laws restricting ammunition (lead reduction, bar coding/traceability, etc...) to raise the cost.

There will be further attacks on different types of firearms - semi-autos, compact pistols, etc...
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Look at how quickly the decision was made (and acted on) to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in New Orleans after Katrina - arguably when they were needed the most.
thats why you dont register the good ones!

everyone need a burry gun.
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thats why you dont register the good ones!

everyone needs burry gunS.
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I could careless one way or another about the subject, but thought it was a bit amusing in the opening statement where the writer uses the line "the US citizen’s God-given liberty to own firearms" I don't think God had anything to do with our liberty to own firearms. Don't recall seeing his signature on the Bill of Rights...lol.
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Q: Does the Obama administration intend to “force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for U.S. citizens” through a United Nations treaty?

A: No. The administration plans to negotiate a treaty to regulate the international export and import of weapons. It says that it won’t support any treaty that regulates the domestic transfer or ownership of weapons, or that infringes on the Second Amendment.
So... Obama's Justice Department will be prosecuting itself for gun walking...

I'd rather see us unilaterally withdraw from the damned UN since it seems the majority of time we end up being their police force, their banker, their pantry, and seemingly any time in modern history an issue comes up that has even a miniscule chance of impacting US Commerce/Safety the Soviets, or Chinese veto any effort to even impose sanctions let alone military action.
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I could careless one way or another about the subject, but thought it was a bit amusing in the opening statement where the writer uses the line "the US citizen’s God-given liberty to own firearms" I don't think God had anything to do with our liberty to own firearms. Don't recall seeing his signature on the Bill of Rights...lol.
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The more shit that happens in this country makes me wonder if/when we will see some crazy fuckers make a try...
This same thought has wandered through my head a time or two. It would be real interesting if portions of the military jumped ship and got a rebel attitude.

Either way we know what will happen, these huge "take 'em all" bills will get shot down while they continually make it harder and more expensive to arm yourself. I personally think the next big shot is going to be to ammo manufacturability, getting some kind of crazy serial # bullshit that triples the cost.
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The thing that really worries me about some of these, "HOLY SHIT, OMG, STOP THE PRESSES!!" proposals, bills and arguments is all of the other little shit that seems to slip by unnoticed while everyone is distracted having their freak outs.
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The thing that really worries me about some of these, "HOLY SHIT, OMG, STOP THE PRESSES!!" proposals, bills and arguments is all of the other little shit that seems to slip by unnoticed while everyone is distracted having their freak outs.
Distraction is a very effective tool for covering things up....
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