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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #81
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Don't the older Seadoo boats with the twin motors also burn the 2 stroke oil? I haven't had my jetski for ages so I don't even know how common it is anymore or not. But either way that's something to factor in to your operating costs. IIRC my 99 SPX with the 7something motor would burn like a gallon of it ever couple tanks...
im looking at the newer 4stroke yamahas
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im looking at the newer 4stroke yamahas
I *briefly* looked at some of the newer Seadoo jetboats last year. New, and slightly use, those bitches are crowding the price of a decent new car.

Hell I was also looking at some of the newer jetskis this year and I was just floored.

If, and its a big IF, I were ever to get a boat I think at this point I'd want an 18 or so foot bowrider. Just something to get out on the water and enjoy the day and not break the bank doing it.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:57 PM   #83
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I *briefly* looked at some of the newer Seadoo jetboats last year. New, and slightly use, those bitches are crowding the price of a decent new car.

Hell I was also looking at some of the newer jetskis this year and I was just floored.

If, and its a big IF, I were ever to get a boat I think at this point I'd want an 18 or so foot bowrider. Just something to get out on the water and enjoy the day and not break the bank doing it.
ideally thats what I would like. A four winns/crownline 18-19ft with 4.3 or 5.0l mpi motor. Problem is every boat I find 'has a shady story' about little issues with the boat and I dont want a POS. Im a little leary of buying a I/O as I have never had a boat before and since i will be on inland lakes 95% of the time I figured the Jet style would be a safer bet in lower water conditions in case I do run up on some sand bars. Everyone tells me that on inland lakes its not if you run up in some ground, but when you do.....then they say best bet you smoke a prop, worse case you could do some damage to the outdrive on it.
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ideally thats what I would like. A four winns/crownline 18-19ft with 4.3 or 5.0l mpi motor. Problem is every boat I find 'has a shady story' about little issues with the boat and I dont want a POS. Im a little leary of buying a I/O as I have never had a boat before and since i will be on inland lakes 95% of the time I figured the Jet style would be a safer bet in lower water conditions in case I do run up on some sand bars. Everyone tells me that on inland lakes its not if you run up in some ground, but when you do.....then they say best bet you smoke a prop, worse case you could do some damage to the outdrive on it.
I have been out with a few morons who owned boats, or drivers that had never driven before and ended up in 1' of water in a boat with an I/O while on plane. My old man used to try and take peoples head off on low hanging branches. The worst I have ever seen was a mangled prop.

I once trashed the lower unit on my dads boat though when I was 17. I turned out it wasn't my fault though since the oil in the lower unit had been replaced with water.
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Barry,

Good luck with the decision. I'll help you out any way I can. I won't be back in the store till the first of July though.

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I bought my first boat this year, an 89 18 foot bow rider with a 3.0 mercruiser. For me this is a great starter boat as I am only $3200 into it. I do worry about shallow waters though. I just printed a chart and studied it and took my time to learn the lake.

I know the 3.0 is a weak motor but its 140 HP is enough for me. Doing 40mph is all I need right now. Usually I just cruise around on what the slowest cruising speed is.

I know boats are money pits and I already had to do a bellows job but I am still glad I bought the boat.
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Hard to beat a good tournament ski boat. Powerful, great for water sports, fun to drive and they hold their value.
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When I was 14 I had a friend whos parents bought him a single engine seadoo jet boat. My old man's '67 slickcraft with an il6 180 merc i/o waxed it in every aspect.

That thing was slugish out of the hole, would spin out on tight turns, took waves like shit, etc. But for a couple of 14 year old kids, we had a riot with that thing.
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No. It was a 195ss though. There is a picture in the boat thread that looks exactly like it though.

Edit: apparently that's your boat. We had a lot of fun in that boat until he sold it since the stringers under the motor had gone soft.
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No. It was a 195ss though. There is a picture in the boat thread that looks exactly like it though.

Edit: apparently that's your boat. We had a lot of fun in that boat until he sold it since the stringers under the motor had gone soft.
Darn, always tryin to get more Slickcraft pics. We have a blast with ours too. I agree with you on the older glass boats. I have eyed that Donzi you posted as well, but have been partial to the first gen Pachanga myself:




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Don't the older Seadoo boats with the twin motors also burn the 2 stroke oil? I haven't had my jetski for ages so I don't even know how common it is anymore or not. But either way that's something to factor in to your operating costs. IIRC my 99 SPX with the 7something motor would burn like a gallon of it ever couple tanks...
cant speak for the 2 stroke seadoo's but my 2 stroke merc sportjet 175 only uses 1 gallon of oil per year. Beginning of the year the tank is usally half full and takes a whole gallon to top off and then I dont have to fill it until next year. but a gallon of merc preimum plus is $60 plus just like sled 2 stroke oil.
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Go with a good used large Yamaha or sea doo stay away from the older Yamaha 21' with the twin 1200 two strokes. They are cold blooded sons of bitches unless you put an electric primer pump on them! How ever even that older boat is roomy and plenty fast. But it is loud with the twin 1200's. The new four strokes are smooth and quite. They have no trouble towing skiers certainly not like a ski boat but up to the task as others have said they have come along way from the mid 90's boats the new ones are great a lot of my customers use them for tenders to there yachts
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Barry,

Good luck with the decision. I'll help you out any way I can. I won't be back in the store till the first of July though.

See you soon!

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cant speak for the 2 stroke seadoo's but my 2 stroke merc sportjet 175 only uses 1 gallon of oil per year. Beginning of the year the tank is usally half full and takes a whole gallon to top off and then I dont have to fill it until next year. but a gallon of merc preimum plus is $60 plus just like sled 2 stroke oil.
right, that's like saying i get a half a tank out of $20, I mean who cares what my mpg is, or how big my tank is.....

I used to use over a gallon a weekend....your post is useless.
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All my experience is pre 4 stroke sea-doo. The twin engine ones were a blast, but the singles lived at redline all day screaming for mercy until they let go once a season. All the new 4 stroke stuff sounds pretty nice but they have priced themselves out of the market especially on the Pwc side. it seems like it was not all that long ago you could get 2 jet ski's on a trailer with covers for the price of what they want for one of the newer ones. Maybe I am exaggerating.
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All my experience is pre 4 stroke sea-doo. The twin engine ones were a blast, but the singles lived at redline all day screaming for mercy until they let go once a season. All the new 4 stroke stuff sounds pretty nice but they have priced themselves out of the market especially on the Pwc side. it seems like it was not all that long ago you could get 2 jet ski's on a trailer with covers for the price of what they want for one of the newer ones. Maybe I am exaggerating.
http://www.sea-doo.com/showroom/wate...xt-is-260.aspx

I know that is their top of the line PWC. But 2 of those on a trailer looks to be getting damn near $35k out the door...
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after what I have read on the supercharged 4stroke sea doos needing to have the superchargers rebuilt every 50-100 hours I will not consider that anymore.
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after what I have read on the supercharged 4stroke sea doos needing to have the superchargers rebuilt every 50-100 hours I will not consider that anymore.
you'll be lucky to get 100 hours in on a machine in a season.

the average boat owner puts on less than 20 hours in a season, do the math.

"IF" you live on a lake, you're lucky to go for a boat ride after work, that "may" include a half hour or so of run time, let's call that twice a week. you have about 18-20 weeks of boating.

that's 20 hours if you live on the water, add in about another 2 hours per weekend of actual running time and you have a 60 hour season.

Now, move off the lake, take the boat out every other weekend, and you're looking at about 20 hours a season.

I think my dad's 97 ski boat has around 300 hours on it, and we used to ski as a family quite often, and some of us competed so we trained a fair amount. This was a family of 6 each taking turns skiing/training.
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