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Old June 14th, 2012, 02:37 PM   #1
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I've herd of a lot of guys running trans fluid instead of power steering fluid.
Any advantages to this? Some are stock steering and others are full hydro.
I have full hydro and I'm using standard power steering fluid. Has any one used any thing else?
I know old tractor hydraulic oil is also the same as trans fluid but its clear. Any one ever try that?
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GM synthetic power steering fuid, or amsoil tractor fluid are your best bets for a system with a hydro ram.
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I use tractor hydraulic oil. Comes in a 5 gallon pail. Leaks out just as fast.
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My 2006 Dodge Ram uses ATF +4 in power steering and trans.
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GM synthetic power steering fuid, or amsoil tractor fluid are your best bets for a system with a hydro ram.
Why?
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Because it costs more, that's why.

Seriously, just use what your pump used originally, since it's the only thing in the system that is really going to care.
As for using ATF instead of power steering fluid, they are essentially the same thing, but you may notice some foaming and a bit more noise with the ATF. I would go with the ATF, since it is cheaper, and works just as well.
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Higher boiling point and handles heat better without breaking down.
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GM synthetic power steering fuid, or amsoil tractor fluid are your best bets for a system with a hydro ram.
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Won't degrade or "burn/boil" at higher temps, won't foam, won't cavitate, which is what kills pumps

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Because it costs more, that's why.

Seriously, just use what your pump used originally, since it's the only thing in the system that is really going to care.
no OEM pump is made to run a hydro ram system. The systems are not even comparable

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no OEM pump is made to run a hydro ram system. The systems are not even comparable
It is a hydraulic pump. Nothing more, nothing less. It moves oil, and doesn't care what it moves that oil into.
Obviously a higher boiling point is a good quality to have, but a cooler and fan can also solve that problem, and should be used regardless.
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I have a full hydro PSC system. Their web site says in clear plain english to use plain power steering fluid and absolutely do not use trans fluid. http://www.pscmotorsports.com/Tech-Info click on bleeding instructions. There is also a huge thread discussing this on Pirate. So with that said I am currently using Pennzoil non synthetic power steering fluid. Works great so far.
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I use tractor hydraulic oil. Comes in a 5 gallon pail. Leaks out just as fast.
You wheel farm equipment so it seems reasonable.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 01:44 AM   #12
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I run mobile 424 in mine hydro assist, no problems
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I did a ton of research on this subject last year - and trial by fire.
Power steering fluid dosn't foam up as quickly as tranny fluid.
Tractor style hydrolic fluid works fine for the summer months, but has a tendency to destroy the pumps when it's really cold out unless you really let things warm up well before you start winter wheeling.

FYI: You can pick up a whole gallon of Valvoline PS fluid for about $23 at most auto parts stores.
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funny, when I was a much younger mechanic we used trans fluid for all steering. when rack and pinion came out, we needed to use ps fluid. thats just what I was told to use not sure why
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I used trans fluid in my first hydro set up and cooked my pump. It was foaming up a lot too.
I just re did my hole set up from start to Finnish and this time I'm running PS fluid.
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So you guys are using tranny fluid to save what, like three bucks? That's retarded. My full hydro system uses about three quarts with the cooler and I think the stuff I use is around five something a quart. So in order to save a couple dollars it's worth the risk to your pump? Just so I can add something useful, I use valvoline synthetic and have never had an issue or even have it get hot.
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I never said it was to save $
I used it because I always have trans fluid on the shelf never have PS fluid.
I was also always told they were the same.
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So you guys are using tranny fluid to save what, like three bucks? That's retarded. My full hydro system uses about three quarts with the cooler and I think the stuff I use is around five something a quart. So in order to save a couple dollars it's worth the risk to your pump? Just so I can add something useful, I use valvoline synthetic and have never had an issue or even have it get hot.
I used ATF because that was what the Toyota required.
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I used ATF because that was what the Toyota required.
Well that makes sense if that's what is recommended by what you're running. I assumed people wanted to do it to save money, I didn't realize it was because they were too lazy to buy ps fluid. It just seems too easy to just run what's recommended.
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