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Old June 7th, 2012, 12:02 PM   #21
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the left, and left leaning moderates generally don't question why Government should be involved in meaningless private matters... usually they are all gung ho for more of it.


and I know you're smart enough to know that our elected "representatives' pander to certain demographics in order to attract large swathes of voters - for the same reason that large, easily identified groups of voters have paid whores called "lobbyists" that attempt to exert their influence on those same supposed "representatives".
So you’re suggesting that I be the good little leftist that you think I am and shut up and accept the party doctrine?

Isn’t it generally the right that wants to impose it’s opinion of what “marriage” is and the left that wants to give people more freedom to define it for themselves? I assure you that the left has no monopoly on wanting to get involved in peoples meaningless private matters.

And yes, I know how the system works. But just because the system is stacked against us doesn’t mean we should not make our opinions known.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #22
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Bruce, if you keep trying to impose logic on this world you are going to give yourself a stroke.


IMHO, it's become more of an 'It's always been this way' type of thing than any sort of plan.
It’s my dream that one day the logical and reasonable people of the world will take over running things and just do what makes sense.

And that’s kinda what I was getting at. We define marriage as one man and one woman “because it’s always been that way” and have laws that apply to them “because it’s always been that way”. If we’re going to change the definition of marriage in the law because people are viewing it differently, it makes sense to me that we should also review how we treat married couples under the law.
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