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Old June 5th, 2012, 11:04 AM   #1
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What should I go through before I put it in? Keep in mind that I know nothing about this boat other than what maintenance the PO told me about. Also keep in mind that this is my first boat and I have limited knowledge about outdrives and motors in a marine application.

What I was told:
The engine oil was changed when it was winterized. Oil looks good.

Outdrive oil was changed last summer. How do I check it?

What other things should I make sure are ok before I put it in the water?

Things being done this week:
installed the new battery last night and started it.

the blower and bilge pump now isn't working. RPM gauge isn't correct and a few of the gauges quit working... It all worked when we tested it before purchase.....

install the "new" PS pump and PS line.

Depth/Fish Finder install any tips to share?

Install VHF Radio and Antenna. Tips?

The hinge pins for the center window are broke. Not sure how I'm going to fix that just yet.

I hooked up the flusher last night so I could let it run for a bit but I didn't see any water coming out of the prop like I expected. Should it? I had the trim all the way up.
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The oil is checked through a drain plug in the bottom of the drive. You can't tell the oil level without putting more oil in and opening the top oil screw. When you change the oil you just keep putting more until it comes out the top screw.. It is a good idea to check the oil and see how it looks. The oil condition can tell you the health of your drive.

Check over the bellows for rot and rips.

Grease all the zirc fittings with marine grease.

Where did you see water coming out when you ran it? Did the temp get too high?
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I dont have a clue what kind of boat you have but if you ran it at all without the earmuffs on it you likely burned up the impelor in the lower unit.I would buy a service manual for your model and put a impellor in it either way,unless the po just did it.It's a comon wear part that should be done every few seasons.
The gauges,blower,and bildge are all likelly a bad ground on the back of the dash or even near the battery,try smacking the dash with your palm and see if it changes anything,indicating a loose connection.

Best advice I can give you is to open your wallet,and kiss your money good buy.Welcome to boating.
No really just buy a factory service manual and start wrencing.Spend the money on a factory manual,and it will tell you everthing you need to know.
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Check the petcocks on the block/heads and exaust logs.If they were left open from winterizing water would end up in the bildge instead of coming out the exaust.
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First, what kind of boat/drive/engine? Maybe I missed it but that's pertinent. Second, don't trim outdrive all the way up (assuming it's an I/O) unless you have to to load/unload. This puts excess pressure on the bellows which is a pain to replace. Also, when off truck and stored trim outdrive as far down as possible. Spray bellows with armor-all to protect them. Even with the muffs, run very conservatively out of water. A hose just doesn't keep enough water running through for high rpm's. You'll want a bilge soon. I agree with the rest that's been said.
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What should I go through before I put it in? Keep in mind that I know nothing about this boat other than what maintenance the PO told me about. Also keep in mind that this is my first boat and I have limited knowledge about outdrives and motors in a marine application.

What I was told:
The engine oil was changed when it was winterized. Oil looks good.

Outdrive oil was changed last summer. How do I check it?

What other things should I make sure are ok before I put it in the water?

Things being done this week:
installed the new battery last night and started it.

the blower and bilge pump now isn't working. RPM gauge isn't correct and a few of the gauges quit working... It all worked when we tested it before purchase.....

install the "new" PS pump and PS line.

Depth/Fish Finder install any tips to share?

Install VHF Radio and Antenna. Tips?

The hinge pins for the center window are broke. Not sure how I'm going to fix that just yet.

I hooked up the flusher last night so I could let it run for a bit but I didn't see any water coming out of the prop like I expected. Should it? I had the trim all the way up.
im not far from you, if needed i could come by and lend a hand
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What should I go through before I put it in? Keep in mind that I know nothing about this boat other than what maintenance the PO told me about. Also keep in mind that this is my first boat and I have limited knowledge about outdrives and motors in a marine application.

What I was told:
The engine oil was changed when it was winterized. Oil looks good.Change it.

Outdrive oil was changed last summer. How do I check it? Does your drive have an oil resevoir in the engine compartment? If not then take the drain and fill screws out of the outdrive and put new lube in there, drives are not cheap to rebuild.

What other things should I make sure are ok before I put it in the water?

Things being done this week:
installed the new battery last night and started it.

the blower and bilge pump now isn't working. RPM gauge isn't correct and a few of the gauges quit working... It all worked when we tested it before purchase.....

install the "new" PS pump and PS line.

Depth/Fish Finder install any tips to share?

Install VHF Radio and Antenna. Tips?

The hinge pins for the center window are broke. Not sure how I'm going to fix that just yet. get new hinge pins or new hinge assemblies

I hooked up the flusher last night so I could let it run for a bit but I didn't see any water coming out of the prop like I expected. Should it? I had the trim all the way up.
if you put the ear muffs on the outdrive properly and didn't get any water out of the exhaust that could be a problem. Do you have thru hull exhaust or just out of the outdrive? have you checked the impellar? water pump? how hot did the engine get?
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Old June 7th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #8
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I ran it for a half hour or so on tuesday. Most of the water was coming out of 2 holes on both side of the stern drive. Temps stayed around 150*

Its a 87' Merc 200hp 305 with a Alpha out drive.

I meant to take a or pic when i was running it but forgot... .of course. Maybe I'll try again tonight.
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Outdrive oil was changed last summer. How do I check it? Don't check it, drain and change it. Look for any signs of water in the drive, do this every season.

What other things should I make sure are ok before I put it in the water? Check the oil, change the fuel water separator on the front of the engine, replace the impeller in the out drive if you don't know when it was last replaced.

Things being done this week:
installed the new battery last night and started it.

the blower and bilge pump now isn't working. RPM gauge isn't correct and a few of the gauges quit working... It all worked when we tested it before purchase..... DO NOT run this thing without a Blower. The chance of an explosion is huge and blowers are not pricy. It sounds like you may have a bad fuse someplace though. Take a look under the dash / follow the wires. DO NOT run / start this thing without a blower!

install the "new" PS pump and PS line.

Depth/Fish Finder install any tips to share? I prefer the "Puck" style transducers that will be epoxied to the inside of the hull under the motor. Don't have to deal with anything hanging off the transom.

Install VHF Radio and Antenna. Tips?

The hinge pins for the center window are broke. Not sure how I'm going to fix that just yet.

I hooked up the flusher last night so I could let it run for a bit but I didn't see any water coming out of the prop like I expected. Should it? I had the trim all the way up. Does the boat have through hull exhausts? You should see water coming out of the system through the exhaust outlet, whether that's through hull or through prop. Do Not run the boat with the drive trimmed all the way up. It should be as level as possible to avoid damaging U-Joints, Bellows and the Gimble Bearing.

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Old June 11th, 2012, 07:19 AM   #10
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Ok.. I did all of the above, put it in the water and all is well. Spent the weekend on it and I felt confident enough to leave it in a slip at the Marina.

I did notice that the boat did seem to be sitting low in the water. I did some research and it turns out this boat originally came with a 3.0L OMC. It has a 5.0L Mercruiser in it with almost twice the motor weight of the OMC.

Am I screwed? It seems like it should be fine if I am careful with it. Anything else I should be concerned about with it having twice the motor that the hull was designed for?
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Was a 5.0 Merc a factory option on that boat? It's not an easy task to swap from an OMC setup to a Merc setup. It's possible that your boat could have been ordered with either.

Details on the boat? Model / Year, etc...

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I'm pretty sure it wasn't an option. All the others I've found in FS ads on the net all have 3.0L OMC setups. I'm finding it rather difficult to find specific information on it. Only information I could find was on the NADA site that calls the 3.0L "included". My sample size was only 5 or so. Most ads for a Renken 2052's are for parts :) .

1987 Renken 2052 Classic Cuddy

My only concern is everything in the back is sitting lower in the water than it would have with the 3.0L. For example. The swim step is in the water, the hole through the hull for the speedo and depth finder is very close to the water line and does get momentarily submerged when we're sitting and experience some waves from the side. I'm also assuming that more of the outdrive is sitting in the water than it normally would so I'm not sure if that would cause any issues as well.

I thought the motor mounts looked like a custom job. Also the engine cover was "modified" to make room for the nose of the PS pump pully.

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