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Old May 3rd, 2012, 09:35 AM   #21
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I will add this,

I watched a friend trailer his rig to tellico, wheel 3 days, then blow the trans on his towrig 3 miles into the trip home leaving him stranded...his trailrig was fully operational and would have driven home.

Nothing is fool proof
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I will add this,

I watched a friend trailer his rig to tellico, wheel 3 days, then blow the trans on his towrig 3 miles into the trip home leaving him stranded...his trailrig was fully operational and would have driven home.

Nothing is fool proof
Bummer that shit happens. But, do the math. I'm sure you will find that the likelihood of a trail rig seeing carnage is far higher than a tow rig. That climb in and out of Crawford's Camp was a killer. My motorhome puked a bunch of trans fluid towing my 24' enclosed up that winding hill.

One of the bigger differences is the type of wheeling a person does. A simple trail riding vacation is far different than wheeling some of the hardest trails in the country. The other is the type of vehicle you have. My jeep is fun to drive up to Dairy Queen or drive 20 miles to a trail head. But driving hundreds, if not thousands of miles in a rig that is noisy, drafty and bouncy revving along at a high rpm because of low gears is not my cup of tea. Not to mention that it quickly wears out very expensive tires. Then add in the difficulty of packing luggage and spare parts is a PITA.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 10:44 AM   #23
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I agree 100%.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 10:57 AM   #24
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I'll drive to the mounds. That's about it. I don't have a trailer so that's the only place i go.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 11:12 AM   #25
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I have driven my 73 Bronco to the Badlands and back and just retruned from a 2600 mile trip in a 97 4Runner which included some wheeling. At one time I had an F250 and trailer but have since decided that it wasn't worth the agravation of keeping them around for the few times they were used. I also figure that it would be easier to get one rig home with a U-Haul than a tow rig, trailer & trail rig.
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I never had a trailer the years I went wheeling. Many trips to the UP. Go for it
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I will add this,

I watched a friend trailer his rig to tellico, wheel 3 days, then blow the trans on his towrig 3 miles into the trip home leaving him stranded...his trailrig was fully operational and would have driven home.

Nothing is fool proof
I'm pretty sure that's about where my luck will run at some point.

But like Jim said the likely hood of that happening is far less than something happening on the trail.

I had never thought about the Uhaul idea though. I suppose if you just budgeted a couple hundred bucks extra for your trip as an insurance policy to rent one in case that happened you could do away with a tow rig. I'm not sure how happy I'd be about having to drive on of those POS for a few hundred miles though.
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I'm pretty sure that's about where my luck will run at some point.

But like Jim said the likely hood of that happening is far less than something happening on the trail.

I had never thought about the Uhaul idea though. I suppose if you just budgeted a couple hundred bucks extra for your trip as an insurance policy to rent one in case that happened you could do away with a tow rig. I'm not sure how happy I'd be about having to drive on of those POS for a few hundred miles though.
Drove one from Missouri back to Detroit.


Took two days for a trip I usually do in 11 hours.
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Drove one from Missouri back to Detroit.


Took two days for a trip I usually do in 11 hours.
I drove one from Livonia to West Bloomfield and after the 15 minutes I was ready to ghost ride it into a tree.
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I had never thought about the Uhaul idea though. I suppose if you just budgeted a couple hundred bucks extra for your trip as an insurance policy to rent one in case that happened you could do away with a tow rig. I'm not sure how happy I'd be about having to drive on of those POS for a few hundred miles though.
That was my backup plan when I went to Colorado.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 11:55 AM   #31
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I'm pretty sure that's about where my luck will run at some point.

But like Jim said the likely hood of that happening is far less than something happening on the trail.

I had never thought about the Uhaul idea though. I suppose if you just budgeted a couple hundred bucks extra for your trip as an insurance policy to rent one in case that happened you could do away with a tow rig. I'm not sure how happy I'd be about having to drive on of those POS for a few hundred miles though.

A friend had to do the uhaul deal to get his 4runner from eastern ohio to eastern Pa and I wanna say it ran him like 600$ for a truck / tow dolly.
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A friend had to do the uhaul deal to get his 4runner from eastern ohio to eastern Pa and I wanna say it ran him like 600$ for a truck / tow dolly.
Honestly that's not really bad, considering that would be your last ditch effort.
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True. The stupid part of that deal was his truck could have easily been patched together enough to drive home with little effort and no risk of further damaging it but he was pissed about it breaking he just flipped out and stoped listening to any and logic.
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I have driven to the Badlands numerous times, wheeled the shit out it..drove it home...I also was lucky.. Attica is a flat easy ride that last a few hours (for me anyway) so loading up rig with tools , spare parts, camping gear blah blah..that is by the far the longest I would drive. My last trip there the weekend was so intense in places that I had 10 foot tunnel vision for most of my drive home.

Tow it, load it on a truck whatever you can afford. It makes the cost easily worth it. The drive home is waay more comforting knowing that you played hard and can just unpack. You can fix, unfix, inspect and clean rig as time allows.
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It all comes down to your driving style and attitude. Can you say no to a trail you might break on?

I have trailered my junk as well as drove to my destinations and I can honestly say I broke a lot less when i didn't trailer it, but i have a lot more fun now that i dont have to worry about it coming home in one piece.

also dont have to worry about airing up or down. unpacking gear ect.
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Trailering is a luxury, and a pain in the arse alike. I've done both.... trailered and drove. Even trove a 4"yj to colorado and wheeled some smaller stuff, great time no real troubles. Also trailered to attica, in which my buddies buddy blew up the diff in his tj and he drove mine home while i trailered his. I guess a safety net for one guy is all it takes to wheel stupid. I say roll the dice if it's in the state... out of state trailer it!!
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I wheel like I mean it and still always manage to make it home. The first weekend I really beat on it I got lifted out by the loader while missing a wheel. I still managed to drive it home. I've got to say that I've meet some awesome people this way. If you break there will be someone nice enough to help you home. I don't like breaking like anyone else but its nice to know others have your back. I say drive if you have too or trailer if you can, but either way have fun.
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I wheel like I mean it and still always manage to make it home. The first weekend I really beat on it I got lifted out by the loader while missing a wheel. I still managed to drive it home. I've got to say that I've meet some awesome people this way. If you break there will be someone nice enough to help you home. I don't like breaking like anyone else but its nice to know others have your back. I say drive if you have too or trailer if you can, but either way have fun.
This is only partially true. Once you get a reputation of always breaking your shit and expecting others to bail you out, you will gradually find less people willing to give up their day of wheeling to help you. Helping a person in a jam or a newbie is one thing. Wasting my precious day off work to help someone who is irresponsible is another.

I expect those I wheel with to be self sufficient. I'll always lend a hand or loan a part or tool. But if they want to wheel hard without being prepared, they don't often get invited again.
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^^Very true. Wheel prepared and be prepared for the unexpected. The only 2 times that I've needed help outside my group is when I broke some parts that I did not have on hand or think would break on the trail. I repaid everyone who helped me and made sure to thank them as much as I could. Including repayment by buying dinner, lunch, beer, gas money, fire wood, you name it. All in trying to impose on others as little as possible.
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Nope, not me. I trailer in comfort, wheel without worrying about if I break, and trailer home in comfort. Having major carnage hundreds of miles from home sucks. I've had stupid unexpected stuff break, like losing the planetaries in my transmission while idling down a trail.

Windrock has some nasty trails and is capable of breaking any rig, regardless of how well built.
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