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Old May 3rd, 2012, 07:21 AM   #1
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Default threaded shock body for coil over conversion.

Can you run just as a shock with leaf springs? Then put coils on later and drop the leafs? Such as sway away 2.5 shocks.

If i coukd id like to do that as i plan to coil someday. Or is it bot worth it?
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Yes, you could do that.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 08:00 AM   #3
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Why do 2.0 ones say you need to run shocks as well? Seems 2.5+ you dont need shocks?
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Why do 2.0 ones say you need to run shocks as well? Seems 2.5+ you dont need shocks?
Do you mean springs? Like you have to run a 2.0 with springs, but a 2.5 can run without them? If that's the question, then no, they both can be used as a shock only. Buy the setup ready to use coilover and set the coilover parts aside for later.

You have a few options when talking about higher end, rebuildable shocks. (not even including air shocks or bypass shocks)

You can buy smooth body or threaded body shocks, and with or without reservoir. Usually body sizes for our use would be 2.0 or 2.5, but the desert trucks are pushing the sizes bigger and bigger. We saw some shocks that were $7000 each at KOH this year.

For any of the shocks that I have seen, the only difference between the smooth body and threaded is just the threading. No internal differences. The only exception I've seen is that some smooth body remote reservoir shocks will move the hose for the remote reservoir to the bottom of the shock body as it is more efficient to have it there. Obviously, this won't work in a coilover setup since the springs would be in the way.

The next big question would be emulsion or remote reservoir. Emulsion shocks are usually longer than the remote reservoir version since they have to have the gas and oil mixed. Remote reservoiir has the gas in the reservoir and oil in the shock body to keep them separated. Emulsions fade faster than the same sized remote reservoir because the oil and gas mix tends to foam up on extended long usage and becomes less effective. I'd recommend remote reservoir due to this issue.

As far as shock size, the bigger the shock, the longer it will resist fade; all else being equal.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 08:24 AM   #5
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No i mean shocks. Id link to what i mean but at work on phone.
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Dang great info!

I coukd of sworn i read if you run this 2.0 coil over you have to run a shock along side it. Ill find it when i get home and post link.

I feel it might be worth doing it this way as its cheaper in the long run
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Are you looking at a coil carrier? That would be a coilover shock with no valves in it.

This would be used in conjuction with a bypass shock and most common on a desert racer. The bypass shocks provide the shock damping, and the coil carriers just do what their name suggests.

A lot of the coil carriers I have seen are 2.0 emulsion coilover shocks with no valves installed. Others will still use a remote reservoir shock, and use less valving than if it were stand alone.
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Ah ok. Im sure you are 100% correct with my findings. Im new to all this
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