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Old April 28th, 2012, 08:56 AM   #1
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Default Cummins glow plugs

O.K., this same basic conversation has happened more than a few times as I've looked at cummins trucks for sale, but here was the latest:

Seller: Oh, I've had this 96 Ram for a long time and have been very up to date with the maintenence. I just replaced the glow plugs.

Me: No, you didn't.

Seller: I sure did. Did it myself, it is a big job and expensive.

Me: Um, no...you didn't

Seller: Yeah I did.

Me: Can I see the reciepts for the parts?

Seller: I don't remember where I put it, the glow plugs were about $900

Me: Wow, thats expensive...Can you show me where the glow plugs are so I know for the future?

Seller: Well...they are inside the engine.

Me: What did you have to take off to get to them?

Seller: You know, I don't remember...Oh, yah...I had a shop do it...I forgot.

Me: Really...so a shop charged you to put glow plugs in your Cummins?

Seller: Yes.

Me: Well, you better get your money back, because Cummins don't have glow plugs.

Seller: ............long pause.......they don't?

Me: Nope....Goodbye.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 08:59 AM   #2
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Sure they do, but you have to remove the johnson rod and kanutin valve to get at them
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Old April 28th, 2012, 09:08 AM   #3
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You would be suprised how often I here that.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #4
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It's the Cummings that has the glow plugs.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 10:01 AM   #5
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ha, thats great! I thought I did hear though you could install glow plugs somehow on the cummins?
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Old April 28th, 2012, 10:32 AM   #6
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Ive also been asked If my truck has the V-10 cummings in it.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #7
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How does it ignite the diesel on startup?
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Old April 28th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #8
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How does it ignite the diesel on startup?
Very high compression. The glow plugs/grid heater is there to heat up the air to aid in starting when its cold.

Just gets squeezed so much it ignites.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #9
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Dune Trash?
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Old April 28th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #10
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Very high compression. The glow plugs/grid heater is there to heat up the air to aid in starting when its cold.

Just gets squeezed so much it ignites.
Yep. Real diesels don't have glow plugs!
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Old April 28th, 2012, 12:14 PM   #11
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Yep. Real diesels don't have glow plugs!
If you say so..... I have had a few Olivers without glow plugs and REALLY wish they had them. The 880 wouldn't start at anything under 70 degrees without a fresh wiff of mountain air. The intake heater was about useless on it.

I also a a wonderful 1950T with the supurb 310 in it. They were much better at making the insides become outsides than making power. The safest power level to crank it up to was 10 horsepower less than stock.

The 656 and 706 Farmalls had glow plugs and were much better power and fuel consumption wise than the Olivers without glow plugs.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 01:56 PM   #12
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I had a 780D case backhoe. it had a squeak over 3000 hours on it. at 20*f it started no problem with no assist whats so ever. no grid heater or cold start pack. just a good running 5.9 cummins
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Yep. Real diesels don't have glow plugs!
if you say so Chief.
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Old April 28th, 2012, 02:54 PM   #14
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Funny part is my heater grid didnt work on mine and it still started when it was in the 20's
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Old April 28th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #15
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I had a 780D case backhoe. it had a squeak over 3000 hours on it. at 20*f it started no problem with no assist whats so ever. no grid heater or cold start pack. just a good running 5.9 cummins
The 8V92TA in the Astro will start at 20* with no assist. It lopes for a bit and smokes like heck, but starts. We also have some Series 60's at work with 16,000 hours on them that will start at close to 10* no assist.

On the other hand we have an ISX in a 2006 IH that doesn't like to start below 32*

Direct injection helps a lot on cold weather starting.

Oh, and real diesels don't have block heaters. They either start on gas and switch to diesel or have pony engines.

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Old April 28th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #16
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I need a truck that will start at -40...
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