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Old April 24th, 2012, 08:31 PM   #1
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Default 16.5" double beadlock wheels with 3/16" rod

has anyone here done the inner safety lip with a piece of 3/16" rod on their 16.5" rims?
Ive read about it on pirate and here but havent heard much other than its been done.
Where do u weld the inner safty bead?
Just curious thinking while I have the rims down for diy beadlocks may as well make the inner a little better.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 06:01 AM   #2
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I have been looking at doing this too.... from what I can gather the best way to figure out where to put the rod would be to measure the thickness of your tires bead and place it there with a little spacing..... ( I just designed a set of wheels at work and this is how I figured out where it should go, there is no standard across wheel sizes but the larger the dia of the wheel the thicker the bead seems to average)

I would also think the welding the inner side (center of wheel) of the rod would create a ramp for the bead to slide over, leave the outter ( bead side) alone this may help keep the tire in place.. it may also make it harder to get the tires off but that is the point....... IMO

I have been thining of putting two on my rims just to see if I can get my 16.5" wheels to work like every other kind of wheel. Sense Im broke and cant afford inner air locks and dont really like DIY for driveability.

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Old April 25th, 2012, 06:06 AM   #3
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It's pretty rare to bend a rim on the inside lip. Especially with a standard steelie. They primarily do it on the H1 wheels because they are made from thinner steel that has more of a rolled lip and is easily bent.

You should be fine leaving yours as-is.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 06:14 AM   #4
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It's pretty rare to bend a rim on the inside lip. Especially with a standard steelie. They primarily do it on the H1 wheels because they are made from thinner steel that has more of a rolled lip and is easily bent.

You should be fine leaving yours as-is.
I think you have rock ring and safety bead confused.

A rock ring is added to the outter edge of rims with inner air locks to keep them from bending, DIY beadlocks will solve that same problem on the outter edge. Safety beads are on the inner surface of rims ( innner tire side) to keep the bead from sliding back under low pressure condition, all rims execpt 16.5" have them and that is why everyone gets away from 16.5" rims and the manufactures have slowloy stopped making tires of them.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 06:28 AM   #5
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We did my last set, worked great! Its just a bitch to dismount/mount the tire. Do the safty bead where the bead in the rim should be, like it is on the front. Dose yhat make sence?
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Yup..thats what I was wondering.
Any tips for mounting tires after rod is welded on?
Lots of lube? :D

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what about just laying a thick bead of weld and skipping the rod?
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what about just laying a thick bead of weld and skipping the rod?
Thia would subject the wheel to a lot of heat or take you a long time to weld all 4 if you waited for them to cool between welds. With the rod, a couple good tack welds will do the trick.
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Yup..thats what I was wondering.
Any tips for mounting tires after rod is welded on?
Lots of lube? :D

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Lots of air fast. Most times i needed a tire shop to do it

That thick of weld straight for that long would be a PIA snd i dont think you would save much
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Did my external locks..as far as the rod on the inside of the wheel. I used some good rubber cement glued the crap out of the tire. Hope it works, if not ill be adding the 3/16" rod to keep em together.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #11
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Did this with my 12" wide rims, used 1/8 rod. Made a jig to hold tight to the rim and the correct distance from outside lip. MIG welded inside of the rod, ground a ramp up over rod. Used a mixture of dish soap and water to mount beads. With 2 psi in the 49" Irocs bounced off snow banks without any problems.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #12
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i just did this to 5 new procomp 16.5 wheels. It was a time consuming pain in the arse! i made a little fixture and used a soapstone and slid it around the wheel then tacked 1/8 rod all the way around then stitch welded it. It was an emeffer getting the tire inflated with a blaster at work but now its done and i saved an arseload of money by using military oz surplus 37" tires. the rims new were 65 each with free shipping. Id do it again to save that big cash.
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