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Old April 19th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #1
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LA Times publishes two year-old photos of Airborne troops in Afghanistan posing with remains of Al-Quaeda members killed while setting IEDs or making suicide bomber attacks (both were cited - unclear). Leon Panetta immediately apologizes and sets off to prosecute those involved.

Why It Irritates Me:
1) BFD - a bunch of enlisted guys (and Afghani troops) take tasteless pictures with remains of enemy who died while trying to kill them. It's a war and these young guys are under a lot of pressure. Gallows humor (like this) is not an uncommon coping mechanism - and is by no means new. The punishment needs to consist of the CO of the Airborne unit getting bitched at and that's it.

2) Let's see a bunch of enlisted folk took stupid - but harmless, if embarrassing - pictures at Abu-Gharib prison and Dubya was personally responsible, since he was the CinC. The whole Abu-Gharib fiasco was directly the responsibility of the White House, since the President (at least at that time) personally commanded and supervised every E-grade in the Army. Obie, however, is never even mentioned. Wildly inconsistent.

3) A U.S. newspaper makes a decision to publish material damaging to the U.S. and that puts our Armed Forces - who are AT WAR - at increased risk. that's not journalism, it's treason. The story could've run without pictures and been just as informative, just without the ready-made Al-Qaeda propaganda.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 08:45 PM   #2
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Don't all kill deserve Trophy pics?? Well done and thank you!
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Old April 19th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #3
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Had about 2 pages typed up, but just to get to the point- the world is a fucked up place.
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I think that the news outlets should also not run this type of information. I think it gets big headlines so in the end they care about profit and not soldiers lives.
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media does not go out of it's way to public pix/stores about good things the troops (a.k.a. human beings) do for afgans et al.

why go out of the way to willfully and knowingly inflame/give incentive to those trying to kill u.s. people.
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I wonder if there is an attorney crazy enough to sue the U.S. media?
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The people of this country need to learn to be outraged not at the actions of a few bad apples, pissing soldiers, Zimmerman, etc..., but at EVERY single media outlet that sensationalizes news stories instead of just reporting them.
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Actually looks like Eric Holder... ;)
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If I killed somebody that was stalking me and wanted to kill me, I would piss on their dead body without shame. The stupid part was when the person was taking video of the soldiers pissing on the enemy.
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If I killed somebody that was stalking me and wanted to kill me, I would piss on their dead body without shame. The stupid part was when the person was taking video of the soldiers pissing on the enemy.
I wouldn't mind having it documented for my later enjoyment.
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I wouldn't mind having it documented for my later enjoyment.
Says the Christian.
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On behalf of the American People's who appreciate the freedoms afforded to them by the soldiers that are putting themselves in harm’s way to kill the bastards over there and not over hear,
Thank you! Take all the pictures you want of the dead enemies.
I have watched video’s of our soldier’s beheadings, on the news and internet. No one on the other side reprimanded them on Al Jiz Gobbler News, US soldiers Please take free gratis to photo the perpetrators after having killed them. God Bless You.
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Says the Christian.
I love looking at my mounted 10 pointer that I killed as a hunter.

I guess being a soilder and doing your job you must not keep a lasting memory of a job well done because somehow it hurts some libberal hippies freedom who wouln't have the freedom if it wasn't given to him by the same kind of people he has a problem with.

When God helped the Jews dominate over their enemies I wonder if he would have allowed polaroids?
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I love looking at my mounted 10 pointer that I killed as a hunter.

I guess being a soilder and doing your job you must not keep a lasting memory of a job well done because somehow it hurts some libberal hippies freedom who wouln't have the freedom if it wasn't given to him by the same kind of people he has a problem with.
How many of the solders that come back from ANY war want to remember what they did? I'm goign to go out on a limb and assume not that many. I know plenty of vets that still are huanted by what they did. I don't think having a Video or picture to commemorate what they did would help them. That's just my, some what uneducated, assumption though.

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When God helped the Jews dominate over their enemies I wonder if he would have allowed polaroids?
He actually Killed Saul because he created an alter of things from the enemies he destroyed. There were many examples of God specifically telling his people not to take ANYTHING from the cities they destroyed.




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As for the OP, I'm not going to get into it. I've never been there, I respect the troops, as a hole, but would find it a little harder to do so with the specific individuals that would do that. But, I've never been there so I'm guessing my opinion won't be counted as much.
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Well, when you are trained to de-humanize the enemy in order to kill without guilt, you will get an more extreme sort of gallows humor.


It is entirely unfair to judge a soldier's actions by a civilian's sensibilities.
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How many of the solders that come back from ANY war want to remember what they did? I'm goign to go out on a limb and assume not that many. I know plenty of vets that still are huanted by what they did. I don't think having a Video or picture to commemorate what they did would help them. That's just my, some what uneducated, assumption though.
And I know many that are proud. I guess it's a case by case basis and where you served and what you did.



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He actually Killed Saul because he created an alter of things from the enemies he destroyed. There were many examples of God specifically telling his people not to take ANYTHING from the cities they destroyed.




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That's my GOD!! I love it. . . not only warfare but psychological warefare as well, we will destroy you and not take anything because we don't want your things . . we just want others to know what God's peeps with God's help will do to you and it has nothing to do with spoils!
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^^^Well......you know. He is pretty sweet.


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Well, when you are trained to de-humanize the enemy in order to kill without guilt, you will get an more extreme sort of gallows humor.


It is entirely unfair to judge a soldier's actions by a civilian's sensibilities.
Would it be fair to say that it was abnormal to tape such an event. If it weren't would there not be countless youtube video's of Solders pissing on Insurgents or teabagging them?
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