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Old April 19th, 2012, 06:46 PM   #1
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Default why can black people have pride but whites cant without being called racist?

like the title said what do you all think? personally for the most part i think phil hits it right on the head.

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Old April 19th, 2012, 08:58 PM   #2
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Thats racist YO!
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Old April 19th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #3
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Pretty much hit it on the head.
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Blacks are always going to make themselves out as "minorites". We were talking about civil rights in class the other day, and one kid (white i may add) said something along the lines of "America is a pretty equal place now" and the one black kid in the class was like "No the fukc its not, its getting better, but it aint equal". I just don't understand how anyone could believe its not equal. Companies hire the most suitable client, and if a white and black apply, and the white gets it, then the company is racist. That might be true in a very limited number of cases, but normally its because the white kid was more suitable for the job, or the black kid came in with baggy pants and a shirt that said "pussy ass cracker". And now we have a black president, whose votes mainly came from uninformed voters who thought itd be a good change to have a black president for once. I don't like to think of myself as a racist, but im starting to feel like the minority.
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Things are not equal. What do you think if you see 5 black guys walking down your street?
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Things are not equal. What do you think if you see 5 black guys walking down your street?
I would think..........its time to move.
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Exactly.

Now, who the fault lies with things not being equal? That's the big debate.
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New neighbors?
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things are better but not equal.
no one is immune to prejudice. i almost believe the desire to feel superior is a form of human nature.

firms do not "hire the best candidate." in the auto industry we hire to "meet our numbers". we have to hire the appropriate employee racial / ethnic mix or face audits and fines by the EEOC. we have to go out and curry favor with universities and colleges that concentrate on "minority" students in order to prove we are attempting to avoid discrimination in hiring. so much of it is defensive activity.

as long as there are j.jacksons and a.sharptons running around in the media there will be a focus on and perpetuation of discrimination. think of it all as a business. if j.jackson's operation-push went out of business because there was no discrimination and no stories in the press, what would j.jackson and his staff do for a living? get a job? yea, right.

think of organizations like operation-push or the naacp as corporate hierarchies and their minority members as employees. it is the nature of organizations to grow not wither or willingly put themselves out of business. it's an industry, just like united way, march-of-dimes, etc. think of all the people who would be out of jobs if and when a cure for cancer/diabetes/discrimination is found.

and while i'm at it, i am tired of someone trying to make me feel guilty and paying welfare to people who feel it's there "job" to be poor. did i force their kids to drop out of school before graduation? did i beat down on them if they got good grades? did i make them think they could make their millions in sports, on the street, as a rapper or as a dj? am i responsible for cramming the thug culture down their throats and setting them apart from the mainstream? did i force that teenage girl to get pregnant, drop out of school and then have several more fatherless children that are supported by me because the baby-mama has to take care of the kids and cannot work. i think not.

history lessons in school taught me about the melting-pot concept in the early 1900's. for the life of me i cannot see how all those non-english speaking immigrants made it in america without a national organization for the advancement of polish/german/irish/slavic/asian/dutch/etc people!

if you look at today's asian and arabic groups in u.s., they seem to be doing ok without a lot of public whining. they depend on and support each other. there's a living lesson here that no one important wants to learn from.
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New neighbors?
I had 3 move into the apartment across the street. I tried not to be judgemental but now we have cars arriving for five minutes at a time all through the night and a large percentage of them like to bump the stereo in the wee hours of the night. I'm sure they're not selling Amway to their friends at 3:00 am.
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things are better but not equal.
no one is immune to prejudice. i almost believe the desire to feel superior is a form of human nature.

firms do not "hire the best candidate." in the auto industry we hire to "meet our numbers". we have to hire the appropriate employee racial / ethnic mix or face audits and fines by the EEOC. we have to go out and curry favor with universities and colleges that concentrate on "minority" students in order to prove we are attempting to avoid discrimination in hiring. so much of it is defensive activity.

as long as there are j.jacksons and a.sharptons running around in the media there will be a focus on and perpetuation of discrimination. think of it all as a business. if j.jackson's operation-push went out of business because there was no discrimination and no stories in the press, what would j.jackson and his staff do for a living? get a job? yea, right.

think of organizations like operation-push or the naacp as corporate hierarchies and their minority members as employees. it is the nature of organizations to grow not wither or willingly put themselves out of business. it's an industry, just like united way, march-of-dimes, etc. think of all the people who would be out of jobs if and when a cure for cancer/diabetes/discrimination is found.

and while i'm at it, i am tired of someone trying to make me feel guilty and paying welfare to people who feel it's there "job" to be poor. did i force their kids to drop out of school before graduation? did i beat down on them if they got good grades? did i make them think they could make their millions in sports, on the street, as a rapper or as a dj? am i responsible for cramming the thug culture down their throats and setting them apart from the mainstream? did i force that teenage girl to get pregnant, drop out of school and then have several more fatherless children that are supported by me because the baby-mama has to take care of the kids and cannot work. i think not.

history lessons in school taught me about the melting-pot concept in the early 1900's. for the life of me i cannot see how all those non-english speaking immigrants made it in america without a national organization for the advancement of polish/german/irish/slavic/asian/dutch/etc people!

if you look at today's asian and arabic groups in u.s., they seem to be doing ok without a lot of public whining. they depend on and support each other. there's a living lesson here that no one important wants to learn from.
Good God man! Thats beautiful.
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I had 3 move into the apartment across the street. I tried not to be judgemental but now we have cars arriving for five minutes at a time all through the night and a large percentage of them like to bump the stereo in the wee hours of the night. I'm sure they're not selling Amway to their friends at 3:00 am.
if i had big balls, or a vagina [as per MueKegon ZJ Gurl] i'd put a blaster set up in my car are reply to their bumped tunes with 105db of lawrence welk.
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I admit to having racist thoughts but I believe it's because certain people perpetuate the stereotypes. I pose this question: Name one area that is predominantly black that is prospering. I'm not talking a nice black neighborhood but a community and businesses that are doing ok financially and the area does not look run down. I want to believe the black community can take pride in it's surroundings but so far I have not seen any proof. Also, please don't feed me that line of shit that says the black community is forced to live the way they do because of Whity, don't believe it. How much more free money can we pour into a community without getting any results?

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things are better but not equal.
no one is immune to prejudice. i almost believe the desire to feel superior is a form of human nature.

firms do not "hire the best candidate." in the auto industry we hire to "meet our numbers". we have to hire the appropriate employee racial / ethnic mix or face audits and fines by the EEOC. we have to go out and curry favor with universities and colleges that concentrate on "minority" students in order to prove we are attempting to avoid discrimination in hiring. so much of it is defensive activity.

as long as there are j.jacksons and a.sharptons running around in the media there will be a focus on and perpetuation of discrimination. think of it all as a business. if j.jackson's operation-push went out of business because there was no discrimination and no stories in the press, what would j.jackson and his staff do for a living? get a job? yea, right.

think of organizations like operation-push or the naacp as corporate hierarchies and their minority members as employees. it is the nature of organizations to grow not wither or willingly put themselves out of business. it's an industry, just like united way, march-of-dimes, etc. think of all the people who would be out of jobs if and when a cure for cancer/diabetes/discrimination is found.

and while i'm at it, i am tired of someone trying to make me feel guilty and paying welfare to people who feel it's there "job" to be poor. did i force their kids to drop out of school before graduation? did i beat down on them if they got good grades? did i make them think they could make their millions in sports, on the street, as a rapper or as a dj? am i responsible for cramming the thug culture down their throats and setting them apart from the mainstream? did i force that teenage girl to get pregnant, drop out of school and then have several more fatherless children that are supported by me because the baby-mama has to take care of the kids and cannot work. i think not.

history lessons in school taught me about the melting-pot concept in the early 1900's. for the life of me i cannot see how all those non-english speaking immigrants made it in america without a national organization for the advancement of polish/german/irish/slavic/asian/dutch/etc people!

if you look at today's asian and arabic groups in u.s., they seem to be doing ok without a lot of public whining. they depend on and support each other. there's a living lesson here that no one important wants to learn from.
Are you sure you went to U of M??
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graduated with a major in NCAA sports and a minor in economics
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if i had big balls, or a vagina [as per MueKegon ZJ Gurl] i'd put a blaster set up in my car are reply to their bumped tunes with 105db of lawrence welk.
I wish I still had my Metro sometimes. I'd do a nice big holeshot in front of their house at 7:00am. I'd be the cracker from hell.
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while i agree with some of the things that he says, im pretty sure people thought they were going to a concert not a lecture.
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things are better but not equal.
no one is immune to prejudice. i almost believe the desire to feel superior is a form of human nature.

firms do not "hire the best candidate." in the auto industry we hire to "meet our numbers". we have to hire the appropriate employee racial / ethnic mix or face audits and fines by the EEOC. we have to go out and curry favor with universities and colleges that concentrate on "minority" students in order to prove we are attempting to avoid discrimination in hiring. so much of it is defensive activity.

as long as there are j.jacksons and a.sharptons running around in the media there will be a focus on and perpetuation of discrimination. think of it all as a business. if j.jackson's operation-push went out of business because there was no discrimination and no stories in the press, what would j.jackson and his staff do for a living? get a job? yea, right.

think of organizations like operation-push or the naacp as corporate hierarchies and their minority members as employees. it is the nature of organizations to grow not wither or willingly put themselves out of business. it's an industry, just like united way, march-of-dimes, etc. think of all the people who would be out of jobs if and when a cure for cancer/diabetes/discrimination is found.

and while i'm at it, i am tired of someone trying to make me feel guilty and paying welfare to people who feel it's there "job" to be poor. did i force their kids to drop out of school before graduation? did i beat down on them if they got good grades? did i make them think they could make their millions in sports, on the street, as a rapper or as a dj? am i responsible for cramming the thug culture down their throats and setting them apart from the mainstream? did i force that teenage girl to get pregnant, drop out of school and then have several more fatherless children that are supported by me because the baby-mama has to take care of the kids and cannot work. i think not.

history lessons in school taught me about the melting-pot concept in the early 1900's. for the life of me i cannot see how all those non-english speaking immigrants made it in america without a national organization for the advancement of polish/german/irish/slavic/asian/dutch/etc people!

if you look at today's asian and arabic groups in u.s., they seem to be doing ok without a lot of public whining. they depend on and support each other. there's a living lesson here that no one important wants to learn from.
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I admit to having racist thoughts but I believe it's because certain people perpetuate the stereotypes. I pose this question: Name one area that is predominantly black that is prospering. I'm not talking a nice black neighborhood but a community and businesses that are doing ok financially and the area does not look run down. I want to believe the black community can take pride in it's surroundings but so far I have not seen any proof. Also, please don't feed me that line of shit that says the black community is forced to live the way they do because of Whity, don't believe it. How much more free money can we pour into a community without getting any results?
I agree BUT I think that they do take pride in there community. Like detroit. They love it. The hood,the life,everything.
I work down in the city a lot. And I don't mean the (OK) parts of town.
But it seems what I've seen is they love there "thug life".
I hear them on the news all the time saying they can't get out of the ghetto and ramble on about all there bs..
It's not hard to get in a car drive to another city and start over with a "real" life with next to no money.... Yes it would suck. But I guess they don't "want out" that bad..
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I agree BUT I think that they do take pride in there community. Like detroit. They love it. The hood,the life,everything.
I work down in the city a lot. And I don't mean the (OK) parts of town.
But it seems what I've seen is they love there "thug life".
I hear them on the news all the time saying they can't get out of the ghetto and ramble on about all there bs..
It's not hard to get in a car drive to another city and start over with a "real" life with next to no money.... Yes it would suck. But I guess they don't "want out" that bad..
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