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Old April 12th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #1
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http://www.justchevytrucks.com/lsxengineswap.html found this searching the web today pretty cool for the price
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Old April 12th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #2
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Why would someone pay to go backwards in technology 25 years? You get them from the junkyard usually with all the fuel injection stuff already there.
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That is about as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop..
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Old April 12th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #4
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That is about as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop..
It's 'poopy flavored candy cane'
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poopy flavored lollipop is a quote from the movie dodgeball.
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wait this board might have just turned a corner... so far all in agreement Carb'ed is NOT the way to go!!! holy crap it must finally be 1995 in here...
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poopy flavored lollipop is a quote from the movie dodgeball.
poopy flavored candy cane is a GL4x4 tradition.
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Carb'd LS engines work extremely well, and are much easier fuel system and wiring wise to drop into older cars. Honestly, in drag cars and a lot of cruise applications, carbs work just fine.

But its not what a couple posters here are into, therefore its stupid!!

There are plenty of people who don't want to see wring and ECUs under the hood of a tri-five or 69 camaro.

There are plenty of people who don't want to strip a harness or pay several hundred for that, and several hundred more for tuning.


When you look at what most people want in a muscle car, most people are happy with 13, 12, 11 second cars. OK, you can take pretty much any 6.0, swap the cam, put on a dual plane, decent carb, and MSD LS ignition box, and do your swap in your garage start to finish in one weekend, and be in the 12s. (11s if you started with an LY6 or have good heads or not a heavy vehicle).

Ask Becky if she'd prefer her engine swap done and running in a weekend?

Yeah in a Jeep you want fuel injection, but they run very strong with carbs.
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Carb'd LS engines work extremely well, and are much easier fuel system and wiring wise to drop into older cars. Honestly, in drag cars and a lot of cruise applications, carbs work just fine.

But its not what a couple posters here are into, therefore its stupid!!

There are plenty of people who don't want to see wring and ECUs under the hood of a tri-five or 69 camaro.

There are plenty of people who don't want to strip a harness or pay several hundred for that, and several hundred more for tuning.


When you look at what most people want in a muscle car, most people are happy with 13, 12, 11 second cars. OK, you can take pretty much any 6.0, swap the cam, put on a dual plane, decent carb, and MSD LS ignition box, and do your swap in your garage start to finish in one weekend, and be in the 12s. (11s if you started with an LY6 or have good heads or not a heavy vehicle).

Ask Becky if she'd prefer her engine swap done and running in a weekend?

Yeah in a Jeep you want fuel injection, but they run very strong with carbs.
oaah know ewe diidn'nt!
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Carb'd LS engines work extremely well, and are much easier fuel system and wiring wise to drop into older cars. Honestly, in drag cars and a lot of cruise applications, carbs work just fine.

But its not what a couple posters here are into, therefore its stupid!!

There are plenty of people who don't want to see wring and ECUs under the hood of a tri-five or 69 camaro.

There are plenty of people who don't want to strip a harness or pay several hundred for that, and several hundred more for tuning.


When you look at what most people want in a muscle car, most people are happy with 13, 12, 11 second cars. OK, you can take pretty much any 6.0, swap the cam, put on a dual plane, decent carb, and MSD LS ignition box, and do your swap in your garage start to finish in one weekend, and be in the 12s. (11s if you started with an LY6 or have good heads or not a heavy vehicle).

Ask Becky if she'd prefer her engine swap done and running in a weekend?

Yeah in a Jeep you want fuel injection, but they run very strong with carbs.


yes because hooking up those four wires to the ecm is really tough to do in older cars
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yes because hooking up those four wires to the ecm is really tough to do in older cars
because all harnesses come out of the donor vehicle with a 4 wire hook up.

And all old cars have baffled tanks with EFI pumps inside them.

And everyone has EFI live and likes to tune their car after they make changes.


Not saying EFI is dumb. I am swapping in a EFI LS3 right now into my 1969 CJ.

But carbs work fine too, in those applications.

People make that statement 'why step back 25 years in tech'... thats ignorant. Its not the EFI that is making the power on these, its the engine design.

So the guy that puts in an LQ9 with L92 heads is stepping 25 years forward in technology.

Look at car people. How many muscle car guys do you really see talking about how much they love computers and wiring?

GM sells crate LS3s, and other LSX models setup with single planes. The circle track CT motors are pretty nice.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #13
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because all harnesses come out of the donor vehicle with a 4 wire hook up.

And all old cars have baffled tanks with EFI pumps inside them.

And everyone has EFI live and likes to tune their car after they make changes.


Not saying EFI is dumb. I am swapping in a EFI LS3 right now into my 1969 CJ.

But carbs work fine too, in those applications.

People make that statement 'why step back 25 years in tech'... thats ignorant. Its not the EFI that is making the power on these, its the engine design.

So the guy that puts in an LQ9 with L92 heads is stepping 25 years forward in technology.

Look at car people. How many muscle car guys do you really see talking about how much they love computers and wiring?

GM sells crate LS3s, and other LSX models setup with single planes. The circle track CT motors are pretty nice.
Yeah, what he said.
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Altho I would have preferred my motor be up and running faster then it was , I still would not want a carburated motor in a rock crawler. I've watched many who have that set up stall on steep angles and not be able to start them back up. Now, in my old Camaro, yea, it was carburated, in the TJ.....never. Really can't compare the 2 imo.

Also, mine wasn't really an issue of carbed or not, the issue was I didnt do my homework before buying and got a mismatch set up that I then had to find someone that could make it work.
And I wasn't trying to pick on you. Just using it as an example. If you have been hooking up an LQ9 with a carb, into something like a 60s camaro, you'd have:

Bolted in the motor using motor plates that bolt right up to the frame
bolted on the new carbed intake and carb
connected the MSD box (preprogrammed) to your coils
connected your old fuel line to your new carb
connect your plumbing and exhaust

and boom you are running.

no codes, no major wiring.

For a guy thats been building carb'd muscle cars for 30 years and knows the ins and outs of tuning a carb, thats awesome.

And to be clear, for off road, absolutely, EFI all the way.

But theres nothing with carbs in the right application.



Too many people here are just very narrow minded.

There are a lot of examples where people are taking an LQ9 or LY6, putting on a carb intake, MSD box, and a simple cam swap, and going low 12s-mid-low 11s @ 115-120mph. Without having to know how to build a full motor, its a great option.
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This is GL"4x4".. Not GL"Cars"

In a car application and most likely a mud truck.. This would be fine.. But not for much else..
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Quoted = A pair of SV1s feed the fastest LSX powered Gen 5 Camaro in the World. Mike Meeks used a pair of SV1's to win the LSX Challenge Championship in 2011.

I like injection for off-road though.
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This is GL"4x4".. Not GL"Cars"
I forgot, sorry.


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And I KNOW that noone on here runs a sand jeep with a carb'd motor, either.


Its not GL4x4, its "GL-if it doesn't work for me specifically then its stupid and should be forever banished from the earth"
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I forgot, sorry.


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Family Cruiser (on road) 1970 Ford Torino - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

And I KNOW that noone on here runs a sand jeep with a carb'd motor, either.


Its not GL4x4, its "GL-if it doesn't work for me specifically then its stupid and should be forever banished from the earth"



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This is GL"4x4".. Not GL"Cars"

In a car application and most likely a mud truck.. This would be fine.. But not for much else..
Exactly my point when I said why go back 25 years. Last I checked this was an offroad site, not a muscle car site. FYI, you're ignorant if you're the douche out on the trail stalling every 6 feet.
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Exactly my point when I said why go back 25 years. Last I checked this was an offroad site, not a muscle car site. FYI, you're ignorant if you're the douche out on the trail stalling every 6 feet.
First, if you are stalling every 6 feet, yeah, you are an ignorant douche and a bad mechanic.

Second, I bet there are plenty of people on this site who like things like these:





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