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Old April 9th, 2012, 11:25 AM   #1
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Odd. Why isn't this getting any press?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/site/print...0_Anyear817332
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Old April 9th, 2012, 11:53 AM   #2
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Maybe this will get more press:

http://gma.yahoo.com/tulsa-shooting-...opstories.html
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Old April 9th, 2012, 11:56 AM   #3
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So blacks get national press and elderly whites don't.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:05 PM   #4
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So blacks get national press and elderly whites don't.
yes, I seen the one Bruce posted on Fox news this morning, they definitely were talking about the race factor with it.

sad isn't it.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:06 PM   #5
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So blacks get national press and elderly whites don't.
It would appear that way.

I didn't even notice that they were both in Tulsa until after I posted.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:12 PM   #6
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It would appear that way.

I didn't even notice that they were both in Tulsa until after I posted.
Also, I don't mean to downplay the fact that in the article you posted, the victims apparently had nothing in common other than they were black and along the route driven by the killers.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #7
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Apparently killing someone because you don’t like their race is worse than killing someone because you’re a piece of shit with no shred of decency or regard for human life.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #8
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The guys who shot the blacks should be rewarded.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:41 PM   #9
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Black on white crime is not racist, because black people are not racist.


I know this is true because Coleman Young said it.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #10
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"Somebody that committed these crimes were very upset with black people," Tulsa Councilman Jack Henderson said on Sunday. "That person happened to be a white person. The people they happened to kill and shoot were black people. That fits the bill for me. That's a personal feeling."

WOW...
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #11
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an old white couple is probably a part of the fabled 1% while a black youth (capable of committing adult-sized crime) is part of a poor down-trodden underclass.
Tyrone will probably use as a defense the "fact" that the family tree of one of the attacked couple will possibably show they may have owned slaves in the 1800's and this was not a crime but a justified act of moral outrage and the seeking of reparations.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 01:08 PM   #12
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The lamestream media sees it as not news worthy. The greater the racial divide in this country the better the chances of Obama getting another 4 years. That is exactly what the liberals and the media want and will cheat, lie and steal to get it.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #13
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It really is sad that people in general see no value in life.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 01:47 PM   #14
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"Somebody that committed these crimes were very upset with black people," Tulsa Councilman Jack Henderson said on Sunday. "That person happened to be a white person. The people they happened to kill and shoot were black people. That fits the bill for me. That's a personal feeling."

WOW...
If the "facts" are infact facts on this one...I'm not sure how it could be labled as anything other than a hate crime.

1. Black guy kills white guys father in unknown circumstances.
2. White guy posts on FB that he hates black people
3. White guy is accused of murdering/injuring several unrelated people in a killing spree---only targeting blacks.

I guess for me to call something a hate crime, race/sexual orientation/status/whatever has to be the ONLY motivation for the crime.

It appears that is the case here.

With the elderly folks, the "facts" dont lend themselves to a hate crime.

Also, hate crimes only become hate crimes if they have been commented on by the great reverand or Sharpton.

Or am I missing something here, because generally you and I see eye to eye on most things. You are just more vocal and more of a dick about things. Which is fine by me---your return to GL4x4 has secured my position outside of the top 10 GL4x4 assholes. XoXo.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 01:48 PM   #15
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The lamestream media sees it as not news worthy. The greater the racial divide in this country the better the chances of Obama getting another 4 years. That is exactly what the liberals and the media want and will cheat, lie and steal to get it.
This is what bewilders me: "Racial Divide" should only have a negative effect on the current president getting reelected.

That is, unless they're counting on the "Guilty White Conscience" vote. "I'm clearly not racist - I'm white AND voted for Obama!" Nevermind, I just had an epiphany. :facepalm:
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Old April 9th, 2012, 02:00 PM   #16
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This is what bewilders me: "Racial Divide" should only have a negative effect on the current president getting reelected.

That is, unless they're counting on the "Guilty White Conscience" vote. "I'm clearly not racist - I'm white AND voted for Obama!" Nevermind, I just had an epiphany. :facepalm:
I think Obama is counting on racial divide to help him get re-elected with the help of the media. We have all seen the media put an emphisis on "white on black" crime, thus we see racial divide. Al Sarpton and Jesse (Jackass)Jackson get on the bandwagon and get the liberals and the black man riled up. I beleive we will see more "black on white" crime but the media will not be putting it up on the front page of any newspaper or headlines on TV in the country.
As for your voting record we all at times have our vision clouded by outside sources and can get past things like that
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Old April 9th, 2012, 02:38 PM   #17
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When a Muslim terrorist attacks, remember, it's not important that he is Islamic, only that her a terrorist.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #18
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This is what bewilders me: "Racial Divide" should only have a negative effect on the current president getting reelected.

That is, unless they're counting on the "Guilty White Conscience" vote. "I'm clearly not racist - I'm white AND voted for Obama!" Nevermind, I just had an epiphany. :facepalm:
I think there a big risk that it could backfire and motivate an otherwise uninterested white majority to go a vote that (insert racial word of choice here) out of the White House if thinks go to far.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 02:55 PM   #19
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If the "facts" are infact facts on this one...I'm not sure how it could be labled as anything other than a hate crime.

1. Black guy kills white guys father in unknown circumstances.
2. White guy posts on FB that he hates black people
3. White guy is accused of murdering/injuring several unrelated people in a killing spree---only targeting blacks.

I guess for me to call something a hate crime, race/sexual orientation/status/whatever has to be the ONLY motivation for the crime.

It appears that is the case here.

With the elderly folks, the "facts" dont lend themselves to a hate crime.

Also, hate crimes only become hate crimes if they have been commented on by the great reverand or Sharpton.

Or am I missing something here, because generally you and I see eye to eye on most things. You are just more vocal and more of a dick about things. Which is fine by me---your return to GL4x4 has secured my position outside of the top 10 GL4x4 assholes. XoXo.
I guess my comment of "Wow..." wasn't so much about like, "wow, this really wasn't a hate crime, but the black dude on the council seems to think it was", because I'm thinking along the same lines that this was probably racially motivated. I was more wowing the fact that the media made sure to get that little snippet from the councilman in there for the extra effect.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #20
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If the "facts" are infact facts on this one...I'm not sure how it could be labled as anything other than a hate crime.

1. Black guy kills white guys father in unknown circumstances.
2. White guy posts on FB that he hates black people
3. White guy is accused of murdering/injuring several unrelated people in a killing spree---only targeting blacks.

I guess for me to call something a hate crime, race/sexual orientation/status/whatever has to be the ONLY motivation for the crime.

It appears that is the case here.

With the elderly folks, the "facts" dont lend themselves to a hate crime.

Also, hate crimes only become hate crimes if they have been commented on by the great reverand or Sharpton.

Or am I missing something here, because generally you and I see eye to eye on most things. You are just more vocal and more of a dick about things. Which is fine by me---your return to GL4x4 has secured my position outside of the top 10 GL4x4 assholes. XoXo.
No doubt it qualifies as a hate crime. My question if why should killing someone because you hate something about them be treated differently than killing someone because you’re a piece of shit with no regard for human life?
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