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Old April 5th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #61
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Why not do the Synergy BJs? The weak point is going to be the Moogs after this. Might be tough to get RCV to warranty a joint that is destroyed after a broken BJ?
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Old April 5th, 2012, 04:51 PM   #62
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True. But in my mind I'm building this axel overkill for what I do. And I've never broke or wore out a stock bj so in my mind a Moog is a step up from something I've never broke.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #63
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You are going to run 39" tires on a D44. Unless you plan to only take it for ice cream runs, you will likely run into problems.

Weakness of a D44 (especially when you go 38" or bigger):
U-joint strength - you are taking care of this with the RCVs.
Ring gear deflection - you are taking care of this with the ARB (or other full case locker).
Ball joints - this is best taken care of with the Synergy BJs.

Even with all that you still can't drive like a jackass or life for the 44 will be short. I'm not bagging on your build, just making a suggestion
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Old April 5th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #64
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I understand your point. I also know that in the rock crawling world that people tend to go OVERKILL on Axel's.. Dana 60 with an inline 6??? Come on I know guys running d44 in 4 sec 900hp sand drag trucks.. I understand every point that people put out there. But I'm not over killing this.
Like I said I've never broke balljoints and In my mind I wheel pretty hard.
And on top of that this is only a toy. 0 road miles. It sees the trails about 10 times a year. That's that much less wear on regular parts
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Old April 5th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #65
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But if I do manage to brake a BJ YOU WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON I contact to slap me..
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Old April 6th, 2012, 08:20 AM   #66
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I understand your point. I also know that in the rock crawling world that people tend to go OVERKILL on Axel's.. Dana 60 with an inline 6??? Come on I know guys running d44 in 4 sec 900hp sand drag trucks.. I understand every point that people put out there. But I'm not over killing this.
Like I said I've never broke balljoints and In my mind I wheel pretty hard.
And on top of that this is only a toy. 0 road miles. It sees the trails about 10 times a year. That's that much less wear on regular parts
Not even remotely an apples to apples comparison. The sand drag guys usually have little if any weight on the front end, it all transfers to the back to do all the work when they launch. They can get away with a small, light axle. Rock crawling has to deal with not only way more gear reduction, but tires against ledges, under undercuts, bouncing over shit, losing then quickly regaining traction, turning while being loaded, etc. It's A LOT harder on axles. The point was already made that the odds aren't in your favor with a D44 and 38-39" tires, even with some healthy upgrades. but hopefully you'll fare better than most. Shitty part is, you could've put together a much stronger 60 with what the RCVs and ARB are costing you, but hopefully you won't learn the hard way.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #68
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I'm not trying to compare the sports side by side I'm only trying to point out the fact that some people go over kill and they don't have to. It's an In line 6 it has Very little power.
If your going to drive like "Tim Cameron" or some other a hole that likes to f up the trail and be an asshole in your truck than yes you need stupid overkill parts for your rig.
Everyone has there own ways of driving and it seems that no matter what that is everyone says d60. When I have a 44 and lots of good parts why change now? I know how I drive. I've broken many parts in my day and this is far from the first truck I've ever worked on or built
Point being. The D44 that I'm building will be just fine for "my driving" maby not someone else's but that's why I'm buying my parts and there not!
No Hurt feelings, or butt pains. I'm just sick of hearing what someone else would build. However I do appreciate the input, and I know what the outcome could be. But I'm a risk taker.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #69
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you ask for input but dont want to listen.the people that are telling you this stuff know from doing it wrong and waisting a bunch of money.just trying to steer you in the right direction the first time.good luck with your build.
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Seen this on a friends monster truck. He has a pinion brake and he runs his brake line down his top 4 link bar to the brake. Obviously mine will hit the axel and go back to the calipers but it keeps a 24" brake line from hitting my tire again.
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you ask for input but dont want to listen.the people that are telling you this stuff know from doing it wrong and waisting a bunch of money.just trying to steer you in the right direction the first time.good luck with your build.
Yeah but this just leaves it open for "Told ya so"..there will be a 60 under it at some point in time...why not just do it right the first time and never worry about front axle strength?
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No there won't. This is basically a trail truck. Mild rock crawling. I don't push the limits like some people. I will be building a ranger body tube chassis next and that will be tons but for what I do with this that is useless size and weight.
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Well when your nose deep, all weight on a front corner having to steer.... And booom... You will want a 60..

Considering a few guys on here have blow out 60 knuckles in the same scenario with TJ/YJ rigs with 40s... You think a XJ with 38s on a 44 wont do it...!

When the people on here ( the ones that actually know what they are talking about ) suggest to upgrade now.. They might have previous experiences with running 44s..
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I'm not scared....
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Nothing about being scared... But being smart..

But to each their own..
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But to each their own..
Agree with all the above. I break 60 shafts with a stock 4 Banger in a gutted out YJ. You sir are looking to learn the hard.
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That's some BEEF to a D44. Now you'll just have to worry about the R&P holding up!
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Has any one ever done the ford 9" disc brake conversion? If so what kit did you use and how do you like it?
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Old April 7th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #79
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5x5.5? I used the Ruffstuff caliper brackets, Chevy caliper/pads and Ford rotors. Super easy to do - post #65 over on mine.
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Mine has chev 6 lug shafts in it. I forgot about that too.
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